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Old 10-03-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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Is it any wonder the teachers have a hard time educating their students. Then the administration blames the teacher when they have a class room of illegals that can't read and ADHD kids. Not to mention dealing with the Bullies and druggies and the sexpots.

I heard on cable news one teen said there was a boy in her class and he was watching porn on his cell phone in the back of the room everyday. I’ve even heard of kids actually having sex in the classroom. You can’t make this stuff up.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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But half are not being bused in from Mexico, the article refers to American students being bused from the district where they reside, to another district where they attend school...

There is the actual source to be focused on...

Why is there a rationale to complain about Mexicans not living in a school district they attend, when you post an article that kids in the United States are doing it as well?...

By the very notion that students are coming through a U.S. Port of Entry to attend school means it is not an illegal immigration topic...
Illegal immigration is the topic. Whether the children are here illegally or the children of those here illegally it does not matter. Without the illegal "immigration" and the subsequent siphoning of public tax payer funds for projects like busing, schooling or free meals there would not be a problem. I'm pointing out some good news for those that live in my area. No busing means no ESL students and more time from the instructors.

Immediate relief.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Kids from Mexico should not be allowed to enter into the United States to go to schools. They have their own county and the U.S. taxpayers are not responsible for educating brats from Mexico. We give Mexico plenty of Foreign Aid and they have oil let them educate their own damn kids! We are not Mexico's Sugar Daddy!
Again, not an illegal immigration topic...

Ironically demonstrated because I have two Mexican children (my eldest is 19, so she is finished with her primary education) that attended schools in my district today (at least I hope they are there)...
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Illegal immigration is the topic. Whether the children are here illegally or the children of those here illegally it does not matter. Without the illegal "immigration" and the subsequent siphoning of public tax payer funds for projects like busing, schooling or free meals there would not be a problem. I'm pointing out some good news for those that live in my area. No busing means no ESL students and more time from the instructors.

Immediate relief.
Specifically related to schoolchildren coming through a Port of Entry (if they are allowed through, they are not "illegal aliens", nor do they reside in the United States) it would not be "illegal immigration"...

You had an opinion that Mexican children bused from the Port of Entry into the San Diego was a problem for the districts there, but should have known to place the topic in a more appropriate forum area...

If you also have a problem with the ESL program in the school districts there, it is also not solely an illegal immigration topic...
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:13 PM
 
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Again, not an illegal immigration topic...

Ironically demonstrated because I have two Mexican children (my eldest is 19, so she is finished with her primary education) that attended schools in my district today (at least I hope they are there)...
Aren't they step-children?
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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Specifically related to schoolchildren coming through a Port of Entry (if they are allowed through, they are not "illegal aliens", nor do they reside in the United States) it would not be "illegal immigration"...

You had an opinion that Mexican children bused from the Port of Entry into the San Diego was a problem for the districts there, but should have known to place the topic in a more appropriate forum area...

If you also have a problem with the ESL program in the school districts there, it is also not solely an illegal immigration topic...
To address your last sentence. If their parents are citizens or legal immigrants in this country then they would or should know English. It is usually kids with illegal parents that only learn Spanish in the home before they enter school and are in need of ESL classes.

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Old 10-03-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Aren't they step-children?
Stepchildren are indeed children...
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:28 PM
 
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Stepchildren are indeed children...
Did I say otherwise? However there is a difference between what is a biological child and a step child. That doesn't mean that one can't care as much for the latter as much as the former. It is just a biological clarification.
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The local schools are finally getting relief with almost zero ESL students(Mostly children of illegal immigrants) that the Teachers were forced to concentrate time on.

Latino students deserve more from San Diego public schools | La Prensa San Diego

51% English challenged.

The schools would have more locals in it if it wasn't for the busing in from the border.
SD Unified wants students closer to home | SignOnSanDiego.com
Thousands fewer students over night is a start. Maybe in the next couple of years the locals will start using the schools in their neighborhood again. In the mean time the relief for Teachers is immediate.
What?????

From the second link:

"San Diego families have long looked beyond their own neighborhoods when it comes time to send their children to school, with many forgoing the convenience of proximity for the lure of better test scores or specialty programs offered miles away.
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But doing that will require the district to unravel a deep culture here that promotes a catalog of academic choices for their students.
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Some students ride buses three hours a day to and from school for the chance to learn a foreign language, embrace the arts or emerge themselves in science. Many flee their local campus for one that performs better academically."

This has absolutely nothing to do with illegal immigration or busing anyone in from the border. All this speaks to is that favorite topic of parents everywhere - school choice.
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:34 PM
 
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In your opinion...

And also a personal attack...

How is it not understood that a Mexican schoolkid physically residing in Mexico with their family, and crossing through a U.S. Port of Entry to attend school here, is not an "illegal immigrant"?...

As said, I have Mexican children that are attending school lawfully in the United States (mainstreamed, their ESL portion lasted about a schoolyear, and today you could not tell them apart from their U.S. citizen classmates)...

Hopeful learning to critically think a little bit better than what I witness here...
Your step children are not crossing through a U.S. Port of Entry to go to school however, they live here in the U.S. and are here legally so why even make that comparison?
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