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Old 01-25-2012, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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UH. Yeah. No Joke.

How about sending the ILLEGALS home rather than issuing them licenses? What part of they are here illegally do you not get?l
Actually the phrasing is incorrect. It is that a Social Security number is not needed in New Mexico to get a driver's license. My wife had a license in New Mexico while on her K-3 (a "non-immigrant" visa for the spouse of a U.S. citizen, which does not provide the ability to get a Social Security number) for eight months.

Would it be better that she were unable to drive at that time?...
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:09 AM
 
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Everyone in the United States legally? How about "non-immigrant" visas, Border Crossing Cards, etc.? Where is the line drawn, say for someone legally present, but having a status that expires (is the license expiry linked to the status expiry date?)?

What about the other side of what Governor Martinez proposes? Legal Permanent Residents that are required licenses yearly. Does someone that has "Permanent Resident" for their status here, and following all laws, need to have that as a requirement?

What effect does it have on YOu, whomever has the license?...
Let me put it to you simply since you like to start yapping about all the different status'/visa holders in this country, constantly. Illegal aliens should not be allowed driver's licenses. The fact that some states allow it affects all of us and all the reasons why have already been pointed out in here numerous times.

It is only illegal aliens that we are talking about so why do you spin it off in another direction all the time?
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Old 01-26-2012, 01:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What about when legal immigrants (without status to vote) go to get a license?...
Sounds like a topic for legal immigration.
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Old 01-26-2012, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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What about when legal immigrants (without status to vote) go to get a license?...
I'm not sure what you're asking. To my knowledge, a voter registration form is attached to ALL driver's license applications, which includes legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Non-citizens should NOT have access to our voter registration forms, irrespective of status.

If you're asking if I object to states issuing driver's licenses to legal immigrants, the answer is NO. However, the license should clearly indicate their "non-citizen" status. But, we aren't discussing legal immigrants, are we?
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Let me put it to you simply since you like to start yapping about all the different status'/visa holders in this country, constantly. Illegal aliens should not be allowed driver's licenses. The fact that some states allow it affects all of us and all the reasons why have already been pointed out in here numerous times.

It is only illegal aliens that we are talking about so why do you spin it off in another direction all the time?
How are you going to distinguish between illegal aliens and those in legal statuses? Do we have training for the DMVs to recognize whether someone is in-status, or put an immigration officer in every location? Social Security offices are supposed to issue cards when an Immigrant Visa imprint is in their foreign passport (it is "I-551 language"), but wrongly drag their feet until they see a Resident Card.

Do you link the expiry on the driver's license to the visa status? It's easy to say "no licenses for illegals". How do you develop the policy for what documents are needed for those that are not illegal aliens?
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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How are you going to distinguish between illegal aliens and those in legal statuses? Do we have training for the DMVs to recognize whether someone is in-status, or put an immigration officer in every location? Social Security offices are supposed to issue cards when an Immigrant Visa imprint is in their foreign passport (it is "I-551 language"), but wrongly drag their feet until they see a Resident Card.

Do you link the expiry on the driver's license to the visa status? It's easy to say "no licenses for illegals". How do you develop the policy for what documents are needed for those that are not illegal aliens?
The kind of legitimate documents they can come up with. If your wife is here legally, that's a whole different matter and why would you bring her up when discussing illegals and fraud?
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:06 PM
 
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How are you going to distinguish between illegal aliens and those in legal statuses? Do we have training for the DMVs to recognize whether someone is in-status, or put an immigration officer in every location? Social Security offices are supposed to issue cards when an Immigrant Visa imprint is in their foreign passport (it is "I-551 language"), but wrongly drag their feet until they see a Resident Card.

Do you link the expiry on the driver's license to the visa status? It's easy to say "no licenses for illegals". How do you develop the policy for what documents are needed for those that are not illegal aliens?
Ask the DMV. They'll tell you what docs you need if you're a legal alien. If NO docs: NO drivers license will be issued.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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The kind of legitimate documents they can come up with...
Which are?...

What is the policy?...
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Ask the DMV. They'll tell you what docs you need if you're a legal alien. If NO docs: NO drivers license will be issued.
Are "non-immigrant" statuses able to get licenses? The DMV is not familiar with all of the different visa types. How do we get a workable policy that only excludes illegal aliens?
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:22 PM
 
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Which are?...

What is the policy?...
I thought you were the policy expert on legal immigration in this forum and yet you have to ask how someone here in this country legally can get a DL? You don't know what is required by the DMV? If that policy is flawed then seek to get it changed.
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