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Re-read my responses to you on the thread, because you are repeating yourself...
Who is doing the filming, a Mexican in Mexico? No biasness there, right? As someone else already pointed out they saw no rock throwing nor did they see any firing of a gun.
Actually, it is you repeating that there were no rocks thrown. Out of all the several incidents of this type rock throwing was never involved? Again, why would a Border Patrol agent shoot a Mexican on his side of the border for nothing? Better yet let's just drop it, shall we?
[quote=Oldglory;26511791]Who is doing the filming, a Mexican in Mexico? No biasness there, right? As someone else already pointed out they saw no rock throwing nor did they see any firing of a gun...[quote]
Did you hear the shots starting at 2:52 in the video? This is confirmed by news organizations to be video footage of the incident. Are you saying the video is somehow edited, fabricated, or hid evidence of rock throwing?
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Actually, it is you repeating that there were no rocks thrown. Out of all the several incidents of this type rock throwing was never involved? Again, why would a Border Patrol agent shoot a Mexican on his side of the border for nothing? Better yet let's just drop it, shall we?
I'm not saying that rock throwing was never involved, I'm saying that has been the standard answer from the Border Patrol to explain these incidents, even when video later surfaces on a couple instances to show that it was unlikely...
I'm not saying that rock throwing was never involved, I'm saying that has been the standard answer from the Border Patrol to explain these incidents, even when video later surfaces on a couple instances to show that it was unlikely...
Israel makes the same claim: rock throwing, when they kill Palestinians and the world doesn't have a problem with that. Rocks are used when guns aren't available.
Israel makes the same claim: rock throwing, when they kill Palestinians and the world doesn't have a problem with that. Rocks are used when guns aren't available.
I could probably guess how you felt about the all-out massacre of Namir Noor-Eldeen...
For the incident involving Sergio Adrian Hernández Güereca, it was revealed that the Department of Justice had reviewed internal surveillance video (since it was in an area where CBP had mounted cameras themselves), but it was never released to the public. Such video, if it was as the Border Patrol explained the incident, could have instantly cleared the agent. Maybe we need to wait for a Wikileaks there too.
I could probably guess how you felt about the all-out massacre of Namir Noor-Eldeen...
For the incident involving Sergio Adrian Hernández Güereca, it was revealed that the Department of Justice had reviewed internal surveillance video (since it was in an area where CBP had mounted cameras themselves), but it was never released to the public. Such video, if it was as the Border Patrol explained the incident, could have instantly cleared the agent. Maybe we need to wait for a Wikileaks there too.
First, that is totally off topic, but I will respond. Shame on you. How sad you have to use that as a comparison. Reporters know the risks and take the risks when they decide to go into a war zone. On top of their being their our soldiers have to protect them. Our soldiers become their personal body guards. Namer and Saeed, along with the citizens, died as a result of an air-strike. Our military are not perfect and **** happens, bad intel happens. Exactly how would those in the air know that reporters were in the area? It's not as if an American soldier had them in his site and pulled the trigger. We have lost many US soldiers in every war from friendly fire.
Every person who is not a US citizen and steps up and voluntarily enlists and fights for this country, knowing they could be making the ultimate sacrifice, should get immediate citizenship at the same time their honorable discharge is signed, along with his/her wife/husband and children. If they should die serving this country, making the utlimate sacrifice, their family (again husband/wife, children) should be given citizenship and the benefits that would go to every American in the same circumstance. That's my personal opinion.
First, that is totally off topic, but I will respond. Shame on you. How sad you have to use that as a comparison. Reporters know the risks and take the risks when they decide to go into a war zone. On top of their being their our soldiers have to protect them. Our soldiers become their personal body guards. Namer and Saeed, along with the citizens, died as a result of an air-strike. Our military are not perfect and **** happens, bad intel happens. Exactly how would those in the air know that reporters were in the area? It's not as if an American soldier had them in his site and pulled the trigger. We have lost many US soldiers in every war from friendly fire.
Every person who is not a US citizen and steps up and voluntarily enlists and fights for this country, knowing they could be making the ultimate sacrifice, should get immediate citizenship at the same time their honorable discharge is signed, along with his/her wife/husband and children. If they should die serving this country, making the utlimate sacrifice, their family (again husband/wife, children) should be given citizenship and the benefits that would go to every American in the same circumstance. That's my personal opinion.
And back on topic again. What would be the motive for a Border Patrol agent to shoot a Mexican on his/her side of the border unless they were defending themselves? Third time I have asked. I give up.
A little bit over a month ago, there was another Mexican killed in what the Border Patrol blamed on "rock throwing". Read the article, then give your input on whether you would feel it was justified. After that, we can watch a video of the incident.
According to the Mexican government our Border Patrol using a lethal weapon to defend themselves from a lethal weapon attack by Mexicans is not justified.
From the article:
"TheMexicangovernmenthasrepeatedlyexpressedthatthedisproportionateuseoflethalforceintheexercisingofimmigrationcontrolfunctionsisunacceptableunderANYcircumstance," theforeignministrysaidWednesday, callingfor a thoroughinvestigation.
According to the Mexican government our Border Patrol using a lethal weapon to defend themselves from a lethal weapon attack by Mexicans is not justified.
From the article:
"TheMexicangovernmenthasrepeatedlyexpressedthatthedisproportionateuseoflethalforceintheexercisingofimmigrationcontrolfunctionsisunacceptableunderANYcircumstance," theforeignministrysaidWednesday, callingfor a thoroughinvestigation.
Didn't U.S. Congressman Silvestre Reyes (from El Paso) also say these cases "pose questions regarding the appropriate use of force and actions of the U.S. Border Patrol" and that they should be "appropriately investigated"? He was in the Border Patrol for 26 years. Which article are you quoting? Two of the incidents had video that didn't show rock being thrown, and the case of Anastasio Hernandez Rojas wasn't reported that way by the Border Patrol.
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