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As a serious student of this subject, all the information I've received from Hispanic sources indicate that far more Mexicans who have lived in the USA have returned to Mexico as conditions are greatly improving there.
There are several areas with improved job prospects, not only in manual work such as field work, but in other areas requiring more skills. And, there are pockets where foreign investment has led to more work with increasing salaries and benefits.
A lot of Mexicans are also returning as they discover far less government interference in their lives than they encountered here.
This may not be the best of examples:
My wife and I went to shop at one of the WalMart super stores and encountered a Nicaraguan in the parking lot selling chicken and pork tamales out of the back of his car. He had no desire to get on the welfare rolls and spent 12 hours a day trying to make a living on his own. [the tamales were exceptionally good and we hope he's around for awhile]
What would he have to go through to open and operate a stand here? How many licenses and approvals?
He'll get away with it as long as some brick and mortar owner doesn't call the cops on him.
In Mexico, there are no similar restrictions for opening a food stand like that.
Safety?
Simple. If the food is no good or tainted, people will avoid it and they will quickly go out of business.
I don't have a link but latest reports indicate illegal immigration has reached a big zero from Mexico!
However, that doesn't mean the same holds true for other central and southern American countries.
I've heard that said too. Tho word is other Indian Hispanics try to say they're "Mexican" if picked up by the cops since being dropped off at Mexico ain't near as bad for them if they're trying to sneak back into the US than being flown to Salvador and so on.
I don't have a link but latest reports indicate illegal immigration has reached a big zero from Mexico!
However, that doesn't mean the same holds true for other central and southern American countries.
I doubt that many illegals whether they be from Mexico or elseswhere are leaving with Obama's promise of an amnesty. I don't have a link either but I read that more and more of them are coming to get in on this amnesty.
I doubt that many illegals whether they be from Mexico or elseswhere are leaving with Obama's promise of an amnesty. I don't have a link either but I read that more and more of them are coming to get in on this amnesty.
In other words, forget all the data and reports to the contrary, your gut instinct and unverifiable stuff you've read on the internet tells you otherwise. Seems to be a running theme on this forum.
In other words, forget all the data and reports to the contrary, your gut instinct and unverifiable stuff you've read on the internet tells you otherwise. Seems to be a running theme on this forum.
My gut instinct? I said that I read it awhile back. Why would that data be any less truthful than yours? If you don't like this forum or the views of its members I suggest you don't read them then.
In other words, forget all the data and reports to the contrary, your gut instinct and unverifiable stuff you've read on the internet tells you otherwise. Seems to be a running theme on this forum.
The government has been telling us for over 10 years that there's only 11 million illegals.
Is there any other demographic group on the face of the earth that has not changed in over 10 years ?
We heard this same type of government chatter during the last amnesty.
Turned out the government "numbers" were woefully underreported as twice as many illegals got amnesty.
"Comprehensive immigration reform" was used in 1986.
The "estimated" 500,000 - 1 million illegals would be granted amnesty.
Border security would be strengthened.
Business that hired illegals would be dealt with harshly.
Nearly 3 million applied for amnesty
How secure was that border when we now have "11 million" living here according to the government.
Figure that 11 million (static for over 10 years now) is really 20-30 million.
And the harsh dealing to business ? Oh yes..they have to pay a fine.
It will won't be long before Americans start sneaking into Mexico for a better life.
Not too likely because Mexico has immigration laws. I think they have a huge double standard also, they would deport Americans who don't abide by their rules.
In other words, forget all the data and reports to the contrary, your gut instinct and unverifiable stuff you've read on the internet tells you otherwise. Seems to be a running theme on this forum.
But where does the pro-open borders side get their "facts"? Are you going to tell us with a straight face that Obama has agents counting the illegals as they return to Mexico? Or are they standing at the border actually counting illegals as they enter this country?
Keep in mind that Obama claims he can't deport any illegals because they're living in the shadows and no one knows where or who they are, but then he can turn around and claim he managed to count them and there are less?
This is nonsense. since when has illegals turn down handouts? This is misinformation.
Illegal aliens filing for tax returns is setting records every year. Illegal aliens costing LA is setting records every year. If they were leaving at least the amounts should be leveling off not still going up.
This is a well known media strategy. It's designed try to get Americans to think there's no risk of a repeat of what happened when Ronald Reagan passed the last amnesty. That'll help lessen resistance to the amnesty that the media, for whatever reasons, is pushing for.
If you come to study the issue for any length of time you will start to notice this tactic.
As a serious student of this subject, all the information I've received from Hispanic sources indicate that far more Mexicans who have lived in the USA have returned to Mexico as conditions are greatly improving there.
There are several areas with improved job prospects, not only in manual work such as field work, but in other areas requiring more skills. And, there are pockets where foreign investment has led to more work with increasing salaries and benefits.
A lot of Mexicans are also returning as they discover far less government interference in their lives than they encountered here.
This may not be the best of examples:
My wife and I went to shop at one of the WalMart super stores and encountered a Nicaraguan in the parking lot selling chicken and pork tamales out of the back of his car. He had no desire to get on the welfare rolls and spent 12 hours a day trying to make a living on his own. [the tamales were exceptionally good and we hope he's around for awhile]
What would he have to go through to open and operate a stand here? How many licenses and approvals?
He'll get away with it as long as some brick and mortar owner doesn't call the cops on him.
In Mexico, there are no similar restrictions for opening a food stand like that.
Safety?
Simple. If the food is no good or tainted, people will avoid it and they will quickly go out of business.
Illegals don't encounter much government interference in their lives in the USA.
You can see them outside stores here selling tamales, elotes, pirated CDs and DVDs and bathtub cheese. They're not expected to abide by the laws and taxes that citizens must. Nor are they required to have drivers licenses or liability insurance when they drive and there is no penalty for them if they present stolen social security numbers and other stolen identity documents.
In fact the politicians here want to reward them for coming here and breaking all kinds of laws.
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