Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
USA talks a good game but compared even to Western European countries it's deportation procedures are a joke. Have sat in airports in Paris, France watching persons literally being dragged kicking and screaming onto a plane to be deported.
By and large the "deportation problem" in the USA is it's own fault. The system is such that anyone with halfway decent legal representation or "friends" knows how to avoid being deported and or stretch the thing out until this member of Congress or that media source wails at the "injustice".
Persons come here on visas and never leave, then marry and or have children, start a business and generally go about their lives as if there is nothing to worry about. If and when they are caught the plead their sexual preference, newly created family, asylum, and any of a laundry list of reasons why they shouldn't be deported, and most of the time it works. It is really only the poor Mexicans, south Americans, and other minorities that bear the brunt of the deportation policy. Every now and then you hear of a European being deported but that is rare.
Persons have remained here for years in violation of a deportation order, if and when they are found you hear "oh well they have a husband/wife now and started a family, business, etc... during the period afterwards so should be allowed to remain", and again for many it works.
Simplify and Deport!
It will be a point where most Americans will every not welcome new comers freely.
Agreed. We could give each one a free new Cadillac CTS to drive back across the border and we'd still save a ton of money in the long run.
And that will keep Gov't Motors falsely inflated too.
So the the stimulus 'worked' (Pres gets his props).
Expenditures for long term social welfare benefits drop dramatically for illegals (Pres gets his props)
Ratio of illegals to legals drop dramatically (suppose this can be spun into a win for the current Admin)
Aside from the legal immigrants crying about being treated unfairly (after all, why cant they get a Cadillac as well?) I don't see much downside with your proposal :-)
And that will keep Gov't Motors falsely inflated too.
So the the stimulus 'worked' (Pres gets his props).
Expenditures for long term social welfare benefits drop dramatically for illegals (Pres gets his props)
Ratio of illegals to legals drop dramatically (suppose this can be spun into a win for the current Admin)
Aside from the legal immigrants crying about being treated unfairly (after all, why cant they get a Cadillac as well?) I don't see much downside with your proposal :-)
And make Gov't Motors build some plants here in exchange for the "stimulus" and it'll be a win win!!
Curious, how would you feel about someone bold enough to say 'I simply can't bring myself to vote for a black man'? Not that that's how I feel at all. Just want to make sure your feet are planted firmly in front of the mirror.
Ridiculous argument. Being Mormon is a choice. Being black isn't.
Mean while the majority of Americans want our laws enforced. That would include 60% of hispanics.
But then again since when does Obama care about what we the people want?
Ridiculous argument. Being Mormon is a choice. Being black isn't.
COWARD? It's not an argument. It's a significant and poignant question that you're seemingly unwilling to answer.
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 in parts, both policy and enforceable law, is intended to protect human beings from unequal treatment based on one's race, color, religion (creed), sex, or national origin. A concept that either predates your mindset or something that your emphatically choose to apply selectively...
Honestly, I haven't read enough of your BigD posts to determine whether my offer to provide you with an opportunity for some thorough, critical, self-examination is a completely futile effort on my part.
Guessing you might say 'well yeah, I see your point. That was a pretty stupid thing to say' or retort with another shameless deflection. Either response would be incredibly honest, so why not just answer the question so we might all be able to infer what the 'D' in BigD stands for...
Ridiculous argument. Being Mormon is a choice. Being black isn't.
It's not anywhere near as ridiculous an argument as you say. To lump 15 million Mormons together and insist that not one of them is worthy of your vote is bigotry, no matter how you want to slice it. And what blows my mind is that many of the people who would not consider voting for a Mormon would find anti-semitism of that sort to be abhorrent. Somehow unfounded prejudice against Mormons is now socially acceptable, but that still doesn't make it right. Refusing to vote for someone because he or she is a Mormon is simply not an intelligent choice.
More humanely? What does that mean? Are we beating them as they are being escorted back across the border? Are they being denied food, shelter and water? What about what is humane for the American people or don't we count? Like if they were deported instead Americans would get their jobs back and a much needed tax relief.
Obama has already stopped the deportations of illegal aliens that haven't been yet "convicted" of a serious crime and gave a stay of deportation to hundreds of thousands of them with work permits. These Hispanic "immigrant" advocacy groups will never be satisfied until every single illegal is allowed to stay here via an amnesty and all deportations are stopped. Next they will be screaming for an open border with all the countries that lay to the south of us. Bet they wouldn't desire the same for our northern border though.
Still being a Mormon is a choice. It is nothing at all like race. It isn't how one was born but how one chooses to believe.
That's right, being a Mormon is a choice, just like being a bigot is a choice.
Regardless of that fact, to assume that all Mormons have exactly the same world view or even understand Mormon doctrine the same way is an inaccurate generalization. Wouldn't you wonder at how illogical it would be for someone to say, "I'd never consider voting for a Lutheran," or "No Methodist will ever get my vote"? I sure would. To say "I'd never vote for a Mormon," is, in fact, implying, "All Mormons are _____" (fill in the blank with the negative adjective of your choice). "All Mormons" are not alike, and to suggest that they are is wrong and it's stupid.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
