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Old 08-16-2015, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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what is there to justify? 20 years ago we had illegals just like now. They have being waiting for years while living in USA and contributing to our economy.

The thing is, while the area where I live is listed as having a significant population of illegals, Trumps entire political platform is based on the premise that we are plagued by illegal immigration and this is our number 1 problem....

I don't agree with Trumps immigration policy either. Enforce the current policy but you don't reward someone with amnesty for committing a criminal act. The point is, they have not been in the country legally, yet, they benefit from living in this country, while others pay thousands of dollars and go through a mountain of paper and waiting time just to get across our borders. You are rewarding those who come across illegally and basically rub it in the nose of those who do it the right way. The contributions illegals make are a wash at best with the liabilities they present by their presence here. Have we as a country just washed away our sense of right and wrong for what is convenient or financially beneficial?
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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what is there to justify? 20 years ago we had illegals just like now. They have being waiting for years while living in USA and contributing to our economy.

The thing is, while the area where I live is listed as having a significant population of illegals, Trumps entire political platform is based on the premise that we are plagued by illegal immigration and this is our number 1 problem....
I wouldn't call living in this country "waiting".
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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Your neighbors are scum who didn't come to America honorably and don't deserve to be here, become a citizen , or any of the benefits afforded to American citizens.
They shouldn't be allowed to work here. They shouldn't receive taxpayer benefits. They shouldn't receive any of the benefits afforded to legal residents.

But the vast majority are not "scum".
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:19 PM
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Hi,

I have been reading discussions on illegals for some-time now. Trump is trying to stay controversial and so he engages in troll like rhetoric that is borderline racism targeted at our neighboring country.

I have read many opinions, unill I asked myself where do these illegals live. You see, I am in NJ but this is a suburb of NYC.
Demographics of Immigrants in the United States Illegally - Illegal Immigration Solutions - ProCon.org

Now as long as were talking about MY neighbors (I don't know what the situation in Florida or Texas is like) But for my neighbors, I do wish the American dream.

So. NO you will not deport my Neighbors !


I am not going to give Liberals a free pass to pass laws that make no sense, but we can move in the direction of giving illegals means to get legalized.
Just ontologically, how do you give illegals "means to get legalized"? Aren't they illegally working and living in the U.S. now? Isn't that what matters now?
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:22 PM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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The secret is ANCHOR babies and the 14th Amendment.

Trump is not so much against the Illegals Per Se but the extent of the Crime that is being committed by those who were deported and then returned......all one has to do is watch the TV News.
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The increase in illegal immigration stabilized back in 2008, why this is such a large issue in 2015 and for the last several years escapes me.
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:47 PM
 
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The increase in illegal immigration stabilized back in 2008, why this is such a large issue in 2015 and for the last several years escapes me.
Back in 2008 it was all about hope. In 2015 we see all the hope wasn't for the Americans here but for others.

http://c7.nrostatic.com/sites/defaul...d%20Losses.pdf
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Old 08-16-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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Well I guess unless you have executive order power, your opinion means one single vote more than absolute dog ****. I live in the heart of NYC, and fully support Trump and his policy on immigration.
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Old 08-16-2015, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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Back in 2008 it was all about hope. In 2015 we see all the hope wasn't for the Americans here but for others.

http://c7.nrostatic.com/sites/defaul...d%20Losses.pdf
There is an easy answer to the fun they were having with numbers in that article.


The easy answer is that we need immigrants to achieve population growth, without immigrants our population does not grow. So in their numbers, it's just fun math.
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Old 08-16-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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what is there to justify? 20 years ago we had illegals just like now. They have being waiting for years while living in USA and contributing to our economy.

The thing is, while the area where I live is listed as having a significant population of illegals, Trumps entire political platform is based on the premise that we are plagued by illegal immigration and this is our number 1 problem....



Look at Long Island 20 years ago then take a look now.
Night & day.

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