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I read this a lot--that Obama removed more people from the US than Bush. Take a look at the numbers that have flooded into the US compared with Bush. Over the summer the people that flooded through our borders were even wearing Obama shoes--tennis shoes with Obama's picture on it. Of course Obama is going to have a higher rate of deportation.
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Originally Posted by lvmensch
Read the cited article. It makes it clear that "deported" has no meaning.
It also makes it clear Obama removed more people from the US than Bush no matter how you count it.
And how is that working out for the majority with manufacturing going overseas and residential construction being done by non tax paying workers.
So the majority has to pay higher taxes to support the welfare people and the "capitalists" are laughing all the way to the bank.
This is why I will not buy products made overseas if I can buy American made and will never employ non Americans.
It's the capitalists who have f___ed up this country.
"And how is that working out for the majority with manufacturing going overseas"
The U.S is STILL the NO.2 manufacturing country in the world, so there are STILL MANY manufacturing jobs in the U.S.
When greedy employers claim they can't find good help, that is code for "I like illegals because they work cheap, long hours and can't complain or do anything about it."
Who do contractors hire where there aren't a lot of illegals? Are there no contractors?
Another friend of mine grew his masonry business over a 25 year span. He had alot of epensive equipment to do the jobs.
He say a big building going up. One he had done business with for many years.
He saw a lot of Hispanics working there.
He found out that the current mason contractor got paid from the general contractor, cashed the checks and then paid the new workers cash.
He reported the contractor to the County. Thankfully the County Executive took action and shut him down.
Unfortunately it was too late for my friend and he went out of business before the county action was taken with all the red tape involved.
"And how is that working out for the majority with manufacturing going overseas"
The U.S is STILL the NO.2 manufacturing country in the world, so there are STILL MANY manufacturing jobs in the U.S.
Yes, we have manufacturing jobs here and a generous supply of illegal labor. Jobs start at one plant here at $7.25 an hour but this plant does not e-verify. If the company e-verifies, wages are higher and benefits better especially for those plants that don't have products that compete with foreign goods.
As far as citizen workers, they are becoming more strict on those that get public assistance so unless the young ones are going to be supported by family, they might find themselves hungry.
We have a tech school here that fills up but, sadly, most have to leave the area for work. They used to teach construction trades in the high school, build a house and auction it each year but illegals work cheaper, don't complain about conditions and if injured, it is off the record although they use the emergency room for free.
Again, the discussion should be unnecessary since it is a legal matter not a social one.
DUDE .. Its the Conservative (sic) Right /wing nuts that want and allow more illegals.. Its cheap labor for their businesses.. Obama had deported more illegals in 6.5 years the GW Bush The WAR GOD deported in 8 years .. Turn Off Faux News buddy.. as for ACA AGAIN learn to read.. and TURNOFF FAUX News! I went back and read a bunch of your previous post... you definitely need to chill and TURN OFF FAUX NEWS and Read something beside KKK Blogs ..
" Its the Conservative (sic) Right /wing nuts that want and allow more illegals.. Its cheap labor for their businesses."
Take off your partisan blinders. There are just as many LIBERALS in business as Conservatives.
America is expelling illegal immigrants at nine times the rate of 20 years ago; nearly 2m so far under Barack Obama, easily outpacing any previous president.
In April, the Los Angeles Times wrote:
A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data. Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.
I find it interesting the same people that constantly complain about not making a living wage. Are the same people that If you showed up at their door step to do some work. Would scream and complain that we're too expensive. I guess business owners are not allowed to make a living.
I find it interesting that one thinks it's OK to bring in an illegal workforce to compete and drive down wages of your fellow Americans.................. are you really being serious with that reply? Everything has gone up including what these business owners charge but wages should stay thirty years behind............ sounds like greed to me and perhaps someone enjoys paying low wages.
Yes, we have manufacturing jobs here and a generous supply of illegal labor. Jobs start at one plant here at $7.25 an hour but this plant does not e-verify. If the company e-verifies, wages are higher and benefits better especially for those plants that don't have products that compete with foreign goods.
As far as citizen workers, they are becoming more strict on those that get public assistance so unless the young ones are going to be supported by family, they might find themselves hungry.
We have a tech school here that fills up but, sadly, most have to leave the area for work. They used to teach construction trades in the high school, build a house and auction it each year but illegals work cheaper, don't complain about conditions and if injured, it is off the record although they use the emergency room for free.
Again, the discussion should be unnecessary since it is a legal matter not a social one.
"but this plant does not e-verify" I thought it was the law to E-Verify. I could be wrong.
If you believe they are NOT legal, turn them in.
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sounds like greed to me and perhaps someone enjoys paying low wages.
