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Old 01-05-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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GDP 180 trillion over 10 years.

You say the loss would be 2.4 trillion.

That's 1.4%.



I'll take a 1.4% loss to have my country back, less crime, no more clogged schools hospitals and roads.....

The list goes on and on

Agreed. Along with that when you factor in Americans getting their jobs back along with reducing the $113 billion a year that illegals cost us and fewer remittances sent out of our country our economy would actually improve. The only people that benefit from illegal aliens are those who hire them while they pass their enormous social costs unto we the taxpayer.

 
Old 01-06-2017, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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GDP 180 trillion over 10 years.

You say the loss would be 2.4 trillion.

That's 1.4%.



I'll take a 1.4% loss to have my country back, less crime, no more clogged schools hospitals and roads.....

The list goes on and on
So you would spend multiple tens of billions of dollars for a decade building a huge Federal department you will have no use for at that point so you can drop a couple of trillion of GPD?

You really think that a good idea?
 
Old 01-06-2017, 06:08 PM
 
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So you would spend multiple tens of billions of dollars for a decade building a huge Federal department you will have no use for at that point so you can drop a couple of trillion of GPD?

You really think that a good idea?
I've told you several times. Illegals cost US 200 billion a year.

Deport them and the savings will be trillions over decades
 
Old 01-06-2017, 06:11 PM
 
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I've told you several times. Illegals cost US 200 billion a year.

Deport them and the savings will be trillions over decades
So 11 million illegals cost 200 billion ? Perhaps you can share a (hopefully non-partisan) source for your figures.

Illegal immigrants do more than cost the economy, millions actually contribute to it along with paying taxes.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 06:28 PM
 
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I've told you several times. Illegals cost US 200 billion a year.

Deport them and the savings will be trillions over decades
Not a chance. The hopelessly discredited Heritage House thing could not get there. There is certainly some irrationality...States should be compensated for the cost of illegals in health care and schools and such...but that is really so we know what it is costing.

It is the same old problem. We should never have allowed it to happen. But now that it has we have to pay the piper...and the lowest cost piper payment is legalization for most. Then we nail the system down tight and do not screw up again.

Then again...we may. We American are not always rational.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 09:02 PM
 
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So 11 million illegals cost 200 billion ? Perhaps you can share a (hopefully non-partisan) source for your figures.

Illegal immigrants do more than cost the economy, millions actually contribute to it along with paying taxes.

The point is that they never contribute enough to cover what they cost us and that doesn't take into consideration the loss of jobs and reduced wages for Americans.


Illegal Immigration a $113 Billion a Year Drain on U.S. Taxpayers
 
Old 01-06-2017, 09:04 PM
 
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So 11 million illegals cost 200 billion ? Perhaps you can share a (hopefully non-partisan) source for your figures.

Illegal immigrants do more than cost the economy, millions actually contribute to it along with paying taxes.

losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/09/16/undocumented-la-county-parents-projected-to-receive-650m-in-welfare


That's one county...

Do the research. It will take you all of 4 minutes

380,000 illegals in prison. Welfare. Education. Healthcare.
 
Old 01-06-2017, 09:05 PM
 
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The point is that they never contribute enough to cover what they cost us and that doesn't take into consideration the loss of jobs and reduced wages for Americans.


Illegal Immigration a $113 Billion a Year Drain on U.S. Taxpayers
This

Plus 50 BILLION in remittances
 
Old 01-06-2017, 09:06 PM
 
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Not a chance. The hopelessly discredited Heritage House thing could not get there. There is certainly some irrationality...States should be compensated for the cost of illegals in health care and schools and such...but that is really so we know what it is costing.

It is the same old problem. We should never have allowed it to happen. But now that it has we have to pay the piper...and the lowest cost piper payment is legalization for most. Then we nail the system down tight and do not screw up again.

Then again...we may. We American are not always rational.
Wrong. You can't flood an economy with millions of low skilled workers without consequences
 
Old 01-06-2017, 09:08 PM
 
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Not a chance. The hopelessly discredited Heritage House thing could not get there. There is certainly some irrationality...States should be compensated for the cost of illegals in health care and schools and such...but that is really so we know what it is costing.

It is the same old problem. We should never have allowed it to happen. But now that it has we have to pay the piper...and the lowest cost piper payment is legalization for most. Then we nail the system down tight and do not screw up again.

Then again...we may. We American are not always rational.
Legalization does nothing to the cost of the people
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