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Originally Posted by Mathguy
Um, I think you should stop and think about what % of US citizens that are arrested have a criminal record.
Keeping in mind that most people go their whole life without being arrested.
I would not be surprised if it's close to 90% as well.
You're alleging 90% of US citizens have been arrested?
The statistic is being presented as if it's meaningful but it seems to be the norm for "career criminals".
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It indicates the mind set of illegals. Illegals break laws just to exist here. They have no sense of taboo about breaking our laws. No fear of a criminal record. They know that they will only occupy the lowest of jobs.
It makes sense that many illegals who are arrested already have criminal records. They after all, are criminals. The only use an illegal has for laws is if they think it will benefit them personally.
They get arrested and suddenly they got rights. Suddenly they want the law to protect them. Not so different than any other criminal. I'm sure the more you break laws the easier it becomes. The more times you escape getting caught and convicted the more bold. The more the penalty really wasn't bad, the less worry.
Um, I think you should stop and think about what % of US citizens that are arrested have a criminal record.
Keeping in mind that most people go their whole life without being arrested.
I would not be surprised if it's close to 90% as well.
I have a hard time finding such a specific stat but I did find the US state prison recidivism rate is 75%.
Basically, criminals keep committing crimes so most that get arrested already have a record, that's common sense.
The evening news has guys like this on all the time...41 years old, long police record going back to his teens.
That's like when I was teaching, 95% of the problems in a school are caused by, at most, 2% of the students (usually, I'm talking about middle/upper middle class schools). They're the ones who crash your test scores, are suspended multiple times for multiple infractions and just generally exist to cause havoc.
The point of the thread "Sure puts a hole in the liberal bs that illegals are honest people" so it was about illegals and crime, not citizens, thus my post is right on.
If you're incapable of discussing the point of THIS thread then move along and create a thread about how liberals think about such topics.
If people are going to play with numbers and statistics then that's what we are discussing and so it pretty much looks like the entire point is one giant turd.
So either take off your water-wings or get out the pool.
I also thought that's what he meant but reread it. I may be wrong but I think he's saying that 90% don't have a criminal record.
To clarify.
I would not be surprised to learn that 90% of Americans being arrested ALSO have a criminal record.
Ricidivism and repeat crimes are pretty typical.
Basically, the people being arrested usually have a criminal record so I'd expect the same from both US citizens and illegals.
Now if people want to discuss illegals then that's fine, I oppose illegal immigration but I'm not going to stand around watching someone mangle statistics and analytics like someone using a chainsaw to trim their eyebrows.
In order to earn money to survive in the USA, all illegal aliens are guilty of criminal activity.
Either identity theft or tax avoidance.
There is simply no legal way for them to earn income in the USA.
Not to mention they ALL violate our immigration laws.
Agreed but that's not what the thread is getting at.
Illegal immigration is nothing but a corporate on-shoring con-job to get cheap labor and it has suppressed US blue collar labor wages as well as exploiting foreign workers.
Doesn't mean we have to be idiots when discussing an aspect of it however.
Agreed but that's not what the thread is getting at.
Illegal immigration is nothing but a corporate on-shoring con-job to get cheap labor and it has suppressed US blue collar labor wages as well as exploiting foreign workers.
Doesn't mean we have to be idiots when discussing an aspect of it however.
You were defending illegals, stating that their no different than the average American citizen, when it comes to criminal records.
That's very misleading as they are ALL criminals, regardless of whether they have a record or not! Not all US citizens are criminals. See the difference?
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