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Old 09-22-2018, 05:14 PM
 
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Oh this is going to cause on end of hurt in New York.....


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/22/u...pgtype=article
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Old 09-22-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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I hate DT but I'm mostly okay with this. What I am against is that it seems to count things like Medicare as welfare.
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Old 09-22-2018, 05:53 PM
 
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Yeah. Mixed feelings
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:07 PM
 
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I hate DT but I'm mostly okay with this. What I am against is that it seems to count things like Medicare as welfare.
Medicare per se is an entitlement just as with Social Security. Once you've contributed enough (or married to someone who has) among other qualifications, that is that.


OTOH His Orangeness and his instruments are going after Medicare Part D; specifically the low income portion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medica...le-income_help
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:14 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Good... Enough with the handouts!!
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:49 PM
 
Location: NY
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Federal law has always required those seeking green cards to prove they will not be a burden...

I am sure most of those reading this post who have come to this country back in the 40's,50's and 60's,
and have succeeded know all to well what it was like to struggle in this great city with no help period.
Public Assistance? Give me a break. If immigrants back then could come to this great metropolis
from another continent and eventually assimilate there is no reason why it can not hold true today.

For all you socialist naysayers... Go ahead..... keep handing out your tax dollars...without limits
and slowly watch your property taxes, your utility bills,etc..etc... etc... go up ...up.... up.....
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:10 PM
 
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Like I said; this is going to cause all sorts of hurt: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/n...arge-rule.html
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Old 09-23-2018, 02:49 AM
 
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"I am sure most of those reading this post who have come to this country back in the 40's,50's and 60's,
and have succeeded know all to well what it was like to struggle in this great city with no help period."

There was not "no help, period" back in the 40s-60s. (Also I don't know how old you think the posters on this board are, to have come to this country back in the 60s...)

I guess you can make a policy argument about whether this is good or bad but it would be nice if Rs could put their case without just straight-up making up stuff that feels like it ought to be true.
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Old 09-23-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: NY
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"I am sure most of those reading this post who have come to this country back in the 40's,50's and 60's,
and have succeeded know all to well what it was like to struggle in this great city with no help period."

There was not "no help, period" back in the 40s-60s. (Also I don't know how old you think the posters on this board are, to have come to this country back in the 60s...)

I guess you can make a policy argument about whether this is good or bad but it would be nice if Rs could put their case without just straight-up making up stuff that feels like it ought to be true.


You nailed it Randomperson 2.

True Story: Gramps worked in the coal mines at 12 yrs old pops in construction as a teenager.
Gramps and pops came separately to this country with pennies in their pockets.
You can read my other posts on my pop meeting his dad for the first time when he was a teenager.
People like them were the true hard working immigrants that came to this country to work not freeload.
Basically told sink or swim. Few of my relatives who came here could not make it here in
this country and went back home to theirs.
That's the way it was. That's the way it should be.
Oh, almost forgot... No government or city help of any kind .......period.....period......period......

Like the old saying goes
Sometimes you eat the bear.
Sometimes the bear eats you.
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Old 09-23-2018, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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So?

They need to pass the Raise Act. We're giving too many green cards to impoverished immigrants, and they're a drain on taxpayers.
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