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Old 04-14-2008, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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If we didn't have so many PEOPLE, we wouldn't have the overpopulation that we do...
And if a frog had wings.....

 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:23 AM
 
Location: OC, CA
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Well said. The big difference is the lack of assimilation. In fact, instead of assimilating, alot of immigrants are expressing outright hatred for the US and its culture. I have worked with and known alot of immigrants--not all of them Spanish-speaking--and every single one of them says that they are here to make money, most of which they Wester-Union back to families in other countries. The money isn't even going back into the US economy (gee, I wonder why we are in a recession?) The immigrants coming to this country are competing with US workers and are lowering standards that US workers have spents decades struggling for. But it all goes back to assimilation. If all workers,--immigrant and non-immigrant--were able to unite, we would probably see a real solution to the problem (maybe even a middle-class again in the US).
I couldnt agree with you more. Well said. Rep points for you.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:24 AM
 
Location: OC, CA
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I wouldn't call the U.S overpopulated. Yes, there are some cities that are way overpopulated but lets take a look at the midwest. There is so much land that could be inhabited by lots of Americans. The reason they aren't moving into that land is obvious. There are lack of resources there and it's usually very hot during the summer and very cold during the winter.
And the farms have to go somewhere to feed the influx of immigrants.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:38 AM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by StarlaJane View Post
Well said. The big difference is the lack of assimilation. In fact, instead of assimilating, alot of immigrants are expressing outright hatred for the US and its culture. I have worked with and known alot of immigrants--not all of them Spanish-speaking--and every single one of them says that they are here to make money, most of which they Wester-Union back to families in other countries. The money isn't even going back into the US economy (gee, I wonder why we are in a recession?) The immigrants coming to this country are competing with US workers and are lowering standards that US workers have spents decades struggling for. But it all goes back to assimilation. If all workers,--immigrant and non-immigrant--were able to unite, we would probably see a real solution to the problem (maybe even a middle-class again in the US).
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Economists have already spotted our problem. And it for sure as hell ain't the illegal immigrants.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:40 AM
 
Location: California
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And the farms have to go somewhere to feed the influx of immigrants.
Farms have been where they've always been.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:41 AM
 
Location: OC, CA
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Farms have been where they've always been.
Farms are being taken over by housing developments by all the new people.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:43 AM
 
Location: California
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Farms are being taken over by housing developments by all the new people.
Not really, the farms here in California have remained. The small farms have been taken down however, and new commercial ones are in place. It's definitely not how it used to be.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:46 AM
 
Location: OC, CA
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Not really, the farms here in California have remained. The small farms have been taken down however, and new commercial ones are in place. It's definitely not how it used to be.
And the same amount of farms are required to feed more people as the population swells. At some point, we will reach a point where will will have to import farm products.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 12:47 AM
 
Location: California
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And the same amount of farms are required to feed more people as the population swells. At some point, we will reach a point where will will have to import farm products.
I doubt this, the only way this could happen is if all production of agriculture here in the U.S comes to a screeching halt. On the flip side look at Japan, they import all of their things and are prospering as a nation.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I doubt this, the only way this could happen is if all production of agriculture here in the U.S comes to a screeching halt. On the flip side look at Japan, they import all of their things and are prospering as a nation.
Very true on all of your points.
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