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Originally Posted by Achury
Yes you can work here without being a citizen legally.
All you have to do is pay taxes. This is why amnesty is important.
Its not right to say no citizenship to those who contribute so much to America.
America should pay Mexico back taxes for CA-Texas and Arizona but since they do not amnesty is a step in right direction.
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Oh little boy...your naivete is showing. It's sad really. Don't they teach history in Elementary school or are you one of those unfortunate souls attending Academia Semillas del Pueblo Charter School where faux Aztec principal Marcus Aguilar teaches his students Nauhatl while preaching his hate filled reconquista separatist agenda? (When it comes to the three R's, the Academia has some of the lowest test scores in the entire country)
Let me set you straight on a few important points.
1. My Native American ancestry is Apache. Before there were Mexicans in Texas, there were the Apache. Mexicans paid the white man to settle Texas and erradicate my people for them. When I hear that reconquista garbage, I feel it necessary to remind Mexican nationals that Texas belonged to my people long before they or their ancestors, the Spanish Europeans, ever arrived in this country.
2. As a concession to Mexico at the end of the war in 1848, the United States paid Mexico $10,000,000 cash and assumed some $3,250,000 more in claims of American citizens against the Mexican government. In return, Mexico was to cease any and all claims against California, Arizona, and New Mexico, and the Texas border was to be recognized as the Rio Grande river. (See the Treaty of Guadulupe Hidalgo and the Gadsen Purchase). This deal was ratified by Mexico's Senate 43-4.
3. The entire episode happened in less than one generation, which is about the length of time we as Americans expect legal immigrants and their families to assimilate. Remember, Mexico only owned land in the United States for little more than 24 years. Mexico lost the war. Not too many countries are paid for lands that are considered acquisitions of war. Mexico didn't pay Spain for the lands it acquired as a result of the Mexican war for Independence. In the eyes of many, they still got a pretty good deal when you consider the fact that the vast majority of land they gave up was uninhabited and unimproved ranch land at the time. The Mexican-American war ended in 1848, one hundred and sixty years ago. Mexico owned land in the U.S. for 24 years. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that the whinning the reconquista crowd is doing over "stolen lands" is basically without foundation.
4. During the years that Mexico did own parts of the southwest, they were busy enslaving and killing off the North American Indians, whose DNA I share. So don't get up on your high horse and start preaching about how this continent belongs to you. There is no love lost between the Native Americans of North America and the Meso American Indians or the Mestizos. Your people, the Mexicans, paid $2.00 a pair for the ears of my people as well as paying for their scalps. So don't try to pretend a kinship that never existed and does not exist to this day.
Your people were just as instrumental in the destruction of the Southwest Native American way of life as the Europeans were. At least those of European extraction will admit that the European pioneers were responsible for the destruction of the Native Americans. Your people want to pretend some sort of kinship that doesn't exist while you try to take land that never belonged to you to begin with.
5. As Benicar stated in a prior post, the U.S. has already given amnesty many times, beginning with the 1986 Reagan amnesty at which time the American people were promised by elected officials that amnesty would never be an option again and that our immigration laws would be enforced.
1. The Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA) Amnesty of 1986 - the "one-time only" blanket amnesty for some 2.8 million illegal aliens.
2. Section 245(i) The Amnesty of 1994 - a temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens.
3. Section 245(i) The Extension Amnesty of 1997 - an extension of the rolling amnesty created in 1994.
4. The Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty of 1997 - an amnesty for nearly one million illegal aliens from Central America.
5. The Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA) of 1998 - an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.
6. The Late Amnesty of 2000 - an amnesty for approximately 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed they should have been amnestied under the 1986 IRCA amnesty.
7. The LIFE Act Amnesty of 2000 - a reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty to an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens.
And just because I'm a nice person, I'll throw in a little accounting lesson gratis.
The only way that FICA and withholding can be taken out of a person's salary is if that person has a taxpayer identification number, i.e.; a Social Security number or an ITIN.
If a person is in this country illegally, he cannot get a Social Security number legally. He can get an ITIN, but few illegal aliens do as that puts them squarely on the radar of the U.S. government.
So consequently, if an illegal alien is working and paying taxes in the United States of America, odds are good that he is using the Social Security number of a U.S. citizen without said citizen's knowledge or permission. I don't know about your upbringing, but my parents taught me that stealing is wrong and that those who do so are criminals.
So all that said, I'll leave you with a bit of wisdom. Crack a history book every now and then. Higher education is a wonderful thing.
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