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Old 12-21-2008, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:49 AM
 
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The US is considered a melting pot.

The Irish were gonna ruin the US

The Italians were gonna ruin the country

Every immigrant wave has faced rhetoric about how they were going to bring the country down....

And we are still standing!
It's not immigration when it's about unlimited rights of the people of one nation to break whatever laws they please including crossing the border illegally, obtaining stolen identification documents, driving without licenses and insurance.

We have immigration laws as does every other nation in the world. The government and people of one particular nation demands that we have no immigration laws, no limits of any kind while they keep theirs in place.
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:11 AM
 
Location: Mexifornia (for now)
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Those who post in this forum oppose ILLEGALS aka people who migrated to the US in an illegal manner or overstayed their visas with the intent of finding work and/or residence.

Chauncy's probably not responding because his/her accusations of xenophobia were proven false.

We're awaiting your response...
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Legal or illegal immigration?

The latter can go back to where they came from.
Ditto...let's not confuse xenophobia with enforcing the law and demanding that non-citizens observe our law.

Before all you knee-jerk libs jump on me, my mother is a LEGAL immigrant who became a naturalized US citizen and loves this country. My brother-in-law is the same. My father was born here, as was I. I welcome all immigrants who want to come here badly enough that they fill out the forms, wait in line, and eventually become citizens.

To those who jump the line, break our laws, earn money illegally and send it to people outside of the US....I hope you are caught and sent to prison or deported to your own country. That is not xenophobia...it's common sense.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Ditto...let's not confuse xenophobia with enforcing the law and demanding that non-citizens observe our law.

Before all you knee-jerk libs jump on me, my mother is a LEGAL immigrant who became a naturalized US citizen and loves this country. My brother-in-law is the same. My father was born here, as was I. I welcome all immigrants who want to come here badly enough that they fill out the forms, wait in line, and eventually become citizens.

To those who jump the line, break our laws, earn money illegally and send it to people outside of the US....I hope you are caught and sent to prison or deported to your own country. That is not xenophobia...it's common sense.
I support all legal immigrants provided they respect and obey our laws. Illegals by default are criminals, arrogant, and deserve no favored status in regards to legalizing their status. Get to the back of the line and wait your turn.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chauncy View Post
The US is considered a melting pot.

The Irish were gonna ruin the US

The Italians were gonna ruin the country

Every immigrant wave has faced rhetoric about how they were going to bring the country down....

And we are still standing!
Past waves of immigrants were far less in size and scope.

This massive wave toward dwarfs all over waves of immigration and there is much less assimilation occurring than in decades past. Not only that, these people aren't White and their birth rates are enormous.

For whatever reason, we're supposed to cheer Whites becoming a minority in Europe, America, Australia, etc while Africa stays African, Asia stays Asian, etc etc.

Seems like it's only formally White countries that cheer on their own racial destruction. Everyone else is allowed to come to our countries and have homogeneous homelands to flee back to.

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Legal or illegal immigration?

The latter can go back to where they came from.
Really, so you support the millions we allow in each year legally? Many of whom have no skills and become a drain on the system? There's no difference to me when we're letting in millions of uneducated from the third world, both legal and illegal.

Would you support letting in 20 million legal immigrants each year? I certainly would not.

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I support all legal immigrants provided they respect and obey our laws. Illegals by default are criminals, arrogant, and deserve no favored status in regards to legalizing their status. Get to the back of the line and wait your turn.
So you have no problem with the millions of uneducated immigrants we let in each year? The refugees, the uneducated migrants with their entire extended families and high birth rates, etc etc. I certainly do, we need a sound immigration policy and right now we let in far too many, both legally and illegally.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:23 PM
 
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Past waves of immigrants were far less in size and scope.

This massive wave toward dwarfs all over waves of immigration and there is much less assimilation occurring than in decades past. Not only that, these people aren't White and their birth rates are enormous.

For whatever reason, we're supposed to cheer Whites becoming a minority in Europe, America, Australia, etc while Africa stays African, Asia stays Asian, etc etc.

Seems like it's only formally White countries that cheer on their own racial destruction. Everyone else is allowed to come to our countries and have homogeneous homelands to flee back to.



Really, so you support the millions we allow in each year legally? Many of whom have no skills and become a drain on the system? There's no difference to me when we're letting in millions of uneducated from the third world, both legal and illegal.

Would you support letting in 20 million legal immigrants each year? I certainly would not.



So you have no problem with the millions of uneducated immigrants we let in each year? The refugees, the uneducated migrants with their entire extended families and high birth rates, etc etc. I certainly do, we need a sound immigration policy and right now we let in far too many, both legally and illegally.
I am in total agreement with you. It is way past time for this country to return to its original premise and rules with regard to legal immigration. No more limitless numbers of uneducated, poverty stricken foreigners looking for the American Dream. It's time for people to stand up against their own governments and demand the lifestyle that they wish to live in their own countries.

Now is the perfect time to place a moratorium on ALL immigration, until this recession/looming depression is over and we can ensure that our own citizens are being taken care of.

In the future, America should only admit legal immigrants, who will be sponsored by and the responsibility of their employers. Even then the numbers should be limited.

The 14th Amendment should be abolished. Any child born in this country without at least 1 American parent post 1986 (amnesty) should not be considered a citizen of the US.
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Past waves of immigrants were far less in size and scope.

This massive wave toward dwarfs all over waves of immigration and there is much less assimilation occurring than in decades past. Not only that, these people aren't White and their birth rates are enormous.

For whatever reason, we're supposed to cheer Whites becoming a minority in Europe, America, Australia, etc while Africa stays African, Asia stays Asian, etc etc.

Seems like it's only formally White countries that cheer on their own racial destruction. Everyone else is allowed to come to our countries and have homogeneous homelands to flee back to.



Really, so you support the millions we allow in each year legally? Many of whom have no skills and become a drain on the system? There's no difference to me when we're letting in millions of uneducated from the third world, both legal and illegal.

Would you support letting in 20 million legal immigrants each year? I certainly would not.



So you have no problem with the millions of uneducated immigrants we let in each year? The refugees, the uneducated migrants with their entire extended families and high birth rates, etc etc. I certainly do, we need a sound immigration policy and right now we let in far too many, both legally and illegally.
Being 'White' has no bearing in my eyes on whether people immigrate here legally or not---------better a group of educated Blacks or Asians from wherever vs. a bunch of ignorant 'Caucasians'.

BTW: I am Nordic White.

Needless to say: legal immigration numbers can be slowed down as needed----------it is the damn illegal aliens that cannot be monitored.
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