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Old 01-11-2009, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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All the more reason to eliminate all legal preferences for anybody deemed 'Latino'----------let them compete on the same level as anybody else. If it means learning to speak proper English----------so be it.
Your desperation is showing.

You just can't stand Latinos having a voice. It irritates you that using our cultural similarities, we have united to gain political clout in this country. Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, Cuban-Americans, Dominican-Americans, etc etc. Our communities have been united to make a very strong voice in this country.

I know you're going to be predictable, and talk about some Latinos you "know" talking about how they hate other Latinos, Mexicans hating Puerto Ricans, Cubans hating Dominicans, whatever divide and conquer technique it is people use.

You might as well just accept things as we are, accept the Latino identity, and stop obsessing over White Argentines and Spaniards. Go with the flow
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Your desperation is showing.

You just can't stand Latinos having a voice. It irritates you that using our cultural similarities, we have united to gain political clout in this country. Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, Cuban-Americans, Dominican-Americans, etc etc. Our communities have been united to make a very strong voice in this country.

I know you're going to be predictable, and talk about some Latinos you "know" talking about how they hate other Latinos, Mexicans hating Puerto Ricans, Cubans hating Dominicans, whatever divide and conquer technique it is people use.

You might as well just accept things as we are, accept the Latino identity, and stop obsessing over White Argentines and Spaniards. Go with the flow
Looking at the growing crackdown on illegal aliens: you have it exactly backwards--------the desperation is growing amongst them and their enablers

Besides: America; love it or leave it!
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Looking at the growing crackdown on illegal aliens: you have it exactly backwards--------the desperation is growing amongst them and their enablers

Besides: America; love it or leave it!
Who said anything about illegal aliens? Illegal aliens are getting deported like always. Oh well.

Has NOTHING to do with the growing clout of the Latino community. The influence of Hispanic-Americans is on the rise, still.

We all know this is really this ,
because you seek to discredit the Latino community, but it's futile and fruitless. The Latino community is definitely legitimate, and is growing in influence as part of our country. Despite the threads on this forum.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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It takes a generation or two. Same thing happened with German, Polish, Italian [etc.] communities generations ago. They were all eventually assimilated.
We don't share a border with Europe or Russia. Also sinse when do we have a million illegal immigrants from those countries come over each year like we do from Mexico.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:27 PM
 
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Who said anything about illegal aliens? Illegal aliens are getting deported like always. Oh well.

Has NOTHING to do with the growing clout of the Latino community. The influence of Hispanic-Americans is on the rise, still.

We all know this is really this ,
because you seek to discredit the Latino community, but it's futile and fruitless. The Latino community is definitely legitimate, and is growing in influence as part of our country. Despite the threads on this forum.
Spanish is what holds the hispanic community together, and we love it, Telemundo, and Univision the two Spanish networks in the US have
audiences that compare the "traditional" networks, and they continue growing. The insignificant minority of intolerant radicals will have to learn to live with it...
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Old 01-11-2009, 03:25 PM
 
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Spanish is what holds the hispanic community together, and we love it, Telemundo, and Univision the two Spanish networks in the US have audiences that compare the "traditional" networks, and they continue growing. The insignificant minority of intolerant radicals will have to learn to live with it...

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Bankruptcy: is Univision next?
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Univision's reduced revenue and cash flow, the heavy debt load, the upcoming lawsuit with Televisa over programming and the credit crunch the industry is experiencing has analysts predicting the Spanish-language network could be next on the list of media companies to file for bankruptcy.

According to the Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i4bf70b129a07520891bb7255416cdcd - broken link), Univision had a 25% drop in auto advertising in the third quarter of 2008. It also also has a lot of debt after its buyout last year by private-equity firms, which included media mogul Haim Saban.

Credit analysts have started to compare Univision and Tribune, which also was taken private at the height of the private-equity buyout boom, despite Univision's stronger growth rate. The company's liquidity has become a concern given the firm's debt load - a $500 million debt payment comes due in March. And the sale of its music arm didn't generate as much cash as Univision management hoped. The company got $153 million - half of what had been expected.

Analysts at Standard & Poor's and Moody's have dire predictions for Univision in 2009. Moody's issued warnings, including in a pre-holiday-season debt-ratings downgrade on the company, its second of 2008.
http://mediamoves.blogspot.com/2009/01/bankruptcy-is-univision-next.html




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Old 01-11-2009, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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They're going under.
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Old 01-11-2009, 04:31 PM
 
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They're going under.
Exactly. So much for the espanol in the US being all the rave.
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:34 PM
 
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Has NOTHING to do with the growing clout of the Latino community. The influence of Hispanic-Americans is on the rise, still.
Hispanics only have considerable political clout in the states that share a border Mexico and the Miami metropolitan area.
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Hispanics only have considerable political clout in the states that share a border Mexico and the Miami metropolitan area.
They certainly gained the interest of anybody wanting to run for president.

Latinos have much bigger national voice now.
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