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Possibly the main reason that the Land of Oz does not have to deal with large numbers of illegal aliens is the ocean is quite the deterrent--------no fence necessary.
This is very true in addition to a strict border control policy that is enforced equally to all entrants.
The ocean helps -- yes, it is a nightmare managing such a huge length of land border -- but looking at how OZ deals with attempts at illegal immigration makes it extremely clear to all, that if you are coming to OZ, better do it legally or things just aren't going to be pretty. I believe ~7 years ago when a group of boat people coming through Indonesia heading here, hoping for asylym -- well, they basically got parked off on one of the small islands off of the coast and delivered water and food until other countries accepted them.
Other attempts have led to detention until repatriated or another country accepts.
It is a lot of paperwork, even as a doctor to get accepted here. However, there is no eqivocation on whether someone here illegally will be able to work or live here long term. The answer is absolutely not.
When some of my colleagues who are foreign doctors from europe have become pregnant, they MUST arrange to have their newborn be a citizen of their country; under no circumstances is the child an AU citizen. There is no gray area.
The country looks at whether an individual adds value to the country; if so, you're in -- if not sorry. It isn't that complicated. NZ does the same. There is an interesting story last year of NZ not allowing an obese couple from Ireland to immigrate, despite meeting other requirements; the healthcare system would be required to care for them and the NZ government made the judgement that this was not reasonable to ask of tax payers.
Recently in AU, a fully qualified medical specialist is having trouble immigrating due to his son having Down's syndrome -- the system feels that allowing him to immigrate will result in costs not fair to the tax payers of AU.
Whether or not one agrees with these types of judgements, if the U.S. would at least start thinking in these terms on what burdens they place on society allowing uncontrolled immigration; it would be great!
Thank you for your eloquent and enlightening posts, BigDaddyG. Those with the capacity for rational thinking will concur. Others, either lack said capacity, or have ulterior motives.
Your experiences as an MD in the U.S. typify those of healthcare professionals nationwide. Contrary to the warm and fuzzy depiction of illegal immigration being promulgated by apologists, those with firsthand experience know the true detriment of massive unabated illegal immigration.
The deliberate misinterpretation and abuse of the 14th Amendment is a huge thorn in my side. A constitutional mandate intended to ensure rightful citizenship to the offspring of freed slaves, has been egregiously manipulated to afford citizenship to the offspring of illegal aliens; all of whom flagrantly violate our laws, and have no legal presence in this country.
If the U.S. abolished birthright citizenship and the myriad tax-funded benefits it entails, few illegal aliens would choose to give birth while here. They would simply work, send money home, and ultimately return to their countries of origin. It is one of a multitude of scams illegal aliens employ to fleece this country. If they don’t cross the border during their third trimester of pregnancy, they become pregnant shortly thereafter. It is a staple of the illegal alien agenda.
Babies are innocent; parents are not. Rather than designating “anchor baby†or “jackpot baby†to the children of illegal aliens, the parents should be labeled accordingly – “anchorized parent.†Likewise, children born out of wedlock should not be considered “illegitimate†due to the conduct of their parents. Sadly, it is always the children who suffer. While we will never end unwed pregnancies, or the stigma those children must unjustly bear; we can certainly end birthright citizenship. Children born to two illegal aliens should NEVER be considered a U.S. citizen. It’s a monumental travesty, and a prime magnet for illegal immigration.
i love when such reputable sources use words like "anchor babies", reminds me of when they used to use "tar baby" for dramatic effect. or when they used to use words like *****ninny when referring to the children of slaves or africans.
thats how you know its a reputable source!!!
Tar baby? Surely you can do better than that. Again, you are comparing apples to oranges. Tar baby is a racial slur, period. Anchor baby, while derogatory, has no racial connotation, and is used in a similar manner as “illegitimate†baby. Anchor baby = child born to illegal aliens. Illegitimate baby = child born to unwed parents. See the similarity?
Your incessant attempts at race-baiting are getting tiresome. For someone who claims to loathe racism, you continue to portray yourself as a glaring example of a racist. This is not an issue of race; anchor babies come in ALL races/ethnicities.
BTW, please don’t insult our intelligence by pretending you are clueless as to why your other term is deemed inappropriate. Perhaps if you focused on the issue, rather than injecting race into each and every discussion, intelligent discourse would prevail.
Oh good a new term "Jackpot babies." "Anchor babies" is getting old.
The term "Jackpot Baby" is not new, and is as old as "Anchor Baby." The latter is simply a more prevalent term used to describe the U.S. born children of illegal aliens.
It is probably way too late to ever end the anchor baby abuse industry in the US. The fed gov is too corrupt to pass any legislation to make the necessary changes in the law to stop letting children born of illegal parents become US citizens. Too many politicians have been bought off by the special interest groups. The Democratic party, realizing that anchor babies brought up through the welfare system are for the most part going to be future Democratic voters, has obviously been nurturing another new voter bloc.
point being that regardless of the origin of the words, they are still derogatory, hateful and trashy. people trying to make a valid point will normally shy away from using those words. it completely discredits them. thats the point. but you guys dont get it do you.
answer me this... how seriously would you take a person who used the word tar baby? or jungle bunny? or ni double guh er i would take them as seriously as somebody who used the word we.t back, or anchor baby.
capiche?
oh and as for p i c k a, it is slang for vagina. i wasnt wondering about piccaninny (i know that one), i was inquiring about p icka.
but im not race baiting one bit. just showing how hateful these words are and what double standards exist. they are equally derogatory words, but some people dont see that.
but yall can stay ignorant.
oh, and i am raising the level of discourse here. using foul language discredits people pretty easily.
comprende some more??
You seem just a little too sensitive about the use of the term "anchor baby". It's almost as if you are a little too close to the situation? And not a single word condemning the anchor baby abuse industry? Just whining about people calling a spade a spade?
heard it all before sister. your accusations are nothing new.
i take offense to all derogatory language. F * G, N i G G * R, S P * C, W * P, etc etc. any respectable person would.
and if you want to call a spade a spade, in this case they would be called children of illegals. using other "colorful" terms only shows the true bigoted undertones harbored by the person who uses such words.
why is that hard to understand?
better luck next time.
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Originally Posted by Roguer
You seem just a little too sensitive about the use of the term "anchor baby". It's almost as if you are a little too close to the situation? And not a single word condemning the anchor baby abuse industry? Just whining about people calling a spade a spade?
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