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Old 04-19-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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Read that I believe in taking care of our own (of any race/ethnicity) vs. a bunch of illegals.
The problem with your statement is that you have Americans of all races/ethnicities with the same mentality/issues. It just so happens that by design whites were never enslaved and thus do not fall under the guidelines of affirmative action.

That being said, what does the plight of black America have to do with illegal immigration?
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The problem with your statement is that you have Americans of all races/ethnicities with the same mentality/issues. It just so happens that by design whites were never enslaved and thus do not fall under the guidelines of affirmative action.

That being said, what does the plight of black America have to do with illegal immigration?
Simple.

I too winced when Benicar described what she saw in Atlanta concerning American Blacks---------and saw red when I read about the insolence of the illegal aliens demanding their so-called 'rights'.

Translation: many unethical employers are hiring said illegals over Americans which disproportionally hurts Black folk in towns like Atlanta.
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Old 04-19-2009, 06:24 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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There are many beautiful sections of Atlanta oozing with prosperity. However, poverty is growing, and as long as illegal aliens are permitted to displace U.S. citizens, this will only increase.

I have relatives and friends living in Atlanta who love it there. When I visit them, it’s a different world from what I saw in certain sections of the city. DC has poor sections, but I have never seen the type of poverty I witnessed recently in Atlanta. It broke my heart.
That's how I feel about Denver now. The whole inner City is one big barrio. You could blindfold someone and take them there and if it wasn't for the street signs it could pass for Tijuana, and not the good part either.
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Old 04-19-2009, 06:39 PM
 
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I recently visited Atlanta, and saw homeless Spanish-speaking women with their children begging for money. I also passed a park which was occupied by numerous black homeless families. The most heart-wrenching sight was a homeless black woman sitting on a sidewalk holding her infant. I couldn’t get the image of that poor baby out of my mind, and the next day returned to find her in the same location. I didn’t know if she was on drugs or just down on her luck, but I had to give her money for the baby.

The magnitude of destitution for many blacks in Atlanta was absolutely astonishing. I tend to believe many are simply too concerned with obtaining their next meal to be concerned with illegal aliens. Of course, there is a huge level of affluence among blacks in Atlanta. Perhaps they are simply too removed to even care about the impact of illegal immigration. I honestly don’t know.
AND youre correct but those black americans have suffered the way our country has been when we argue that OUR ANCESTORS CAME HERE LEGALLY...they were truelly scabing the african american....because instead of offering them better paying jobs..or raising their productivity
we brought in the poor irish, german, russian...etc etc..

and thats what bugs me because now that its another race actually doing the growing...suddendly we have grown a consience of the poor
african american...
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:18 PM
 
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http://www.metroatlantachamber.com/macoc/business/img/summaryofeconomicgrowth.pdf (broken link)
Atlanta Metropolitan Growth from 1960
http://media.terry.uga.edu/documents...ts_1986-09.pdf
http://www.fairus.org/images/content...lder/55859.jpg
see whe can scapegoat and blame everything but its our fault of not distrubuting the gains that illegals produce

atlantas labor force
1997= 2,132,489
2007 = 2,729,964
LABOR FORCE GREW 28% and lets be honest to ourselves

atlanta from 1960-to 1990 was only growing 7 percent per year compare to 28% from 2000 to 2004 ......4 TIMES FASTER...

and since hispanic population started to climbed in the late 1990's
1997 bank deposits= 46.2 billion
2007 bank deposits= 131.3 billion THREE TIMES MORE....UMM LETS GIVE THE CREDIT to the abuse african americans that have forever lived in atlanta or to the 30% percen caucassians with that astonishing growth...

building permits hit a record high in 2005 with over 109,000 permits for new construction the record high ever prior illegals 1985 was 76,000

and another point it is calculated that georgias share of the illegal immigration is around 4 percent...so again

atlant has always had problems as a landmark for crimes...but now that illegals are here...LETS BLAME THEM RIGHT...
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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http://www.metroatlantachamber.com/macoc/business/img/summaryofeconomicgrowth.pdf (broken link)
Atlanta Metropolitan Growth from 1960
http://media.terry.uga.edu/documents...ts_1986-09.pdf
http://www.fairus.org/images/content...lder/55859.jpg
see whe can scapegoat and blame everything but its our fault of not distrubuting the gains that illegals produce

atlantas labor force
1997= 2,132,489
2007 = 2,729,964
LABOR FORCE GREW 28% and lets be honest to ourselves

atlanta from 1960-to 1990 was only growing 7 percent per year compare to 28% from 2000 to 2004 ......4 TIMES FASTER...

and since hispanic population started to climbed in the late 1990's
1997 bank deposits= 46.2 billion
2007 bank deposits= 131.3 billion THREE TIMES MORE....UMM LETS GIVE THE CREDIT to the abuse african americans that have forever lived in atlanta or to the 30% percen caucassians with that astonishing growth...

building permits hit a record high in 2005 with over 109,000 permits for new construction the record high ever prior illegals 1985 was 76,000

and another point it is calculated that georgias share of the illegal immigration is around 4 percent...so again

atlant has always had problems as a landmark for crimes...but now that illegals are here...LETS BLAME THEM RIGHT...
I have no problem blaming illegal aliens for their crimes...............they need to be kicked out of the USA-------------or else.
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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AND youre correct but those black americans have suffered the way our country has been when we argue that OUR ANCESTORS CAME HERE LEGALLY...they were truelly scabing the african american....because instead of offering them better paying jobs..or raising their productivity
we brought in the poor irish, german, russian...etc etc..

and thats what bugs me because now that its another race actually doing the growing...suddendly we have grown a consience of the poor
african american...
You can’t compare U.S. citizens of any race/ethnicity with illegal aliens. There is no comparison, because U.S. citizens have a right to be here, and illegal aliens don’t.

What is the other “race” that’s growing? I’m not aware of it.
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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crime rate in atlanta 2007
http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/fre...8/06/graph.jpg

The Way it was in the South: The ... - Google Book Search

great book telling in full detail that atlanta has always been a state with the highest crime rate in the country..

and I bet you that my whole argument based on these statistics that hispanic growth has actually brought crime down instead of up
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:31 PM
 
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You can’t compare U.S. citizens of any race/ethnicity with illegal aliens. There is no comparison, because U.S. citizens have a right to be here, and illegal aliens don’t.

What is the other “race” that’s growing? I’m not aware of it.
ok lets act like all the hispanic growht in atlanta is legal then
see we pretend..and we pretend well
all I can say is that....just view it the way you view it..
cant help you understand like I problably cannot understand your way of thinking but again

2+2 or 2 inches is the same in every face of the earth meaning
numbers, statistics...and all sort of goodies to track facts...are there for us to learn from them..
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:38 PM
 
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Statistics (http://www.ghcc.org/Statistics.html - broken link)

[The Hispanic buying power in Georgia rose from 1,328,827,000 in 1990 to 13,606,097,000 in 2007. (Selig Center for Economic Growth, Terry College of Business, The University of Georgia, May 2007)[/SIZE]

10 times bigger
From 1990 to 2007, Georgia's total buying power rose 176 percent from $101 billion to $278 billion -- this puts Georgia at No. 10 among the states in terms of total buying power. (Atlanta Business Chronicles-July 31, 2007).[/SIZE]

thank you caucassians and african americans for your growth and natural increase of things now georgias buying powere has almost double...but THOSE ILLEGALS 4% OF THE POPULATION ARE EATING THOSE PROFITS AWAY...[/SIZE]

In 2007, Georgia’s Hispanic buying power will overshadow its 1990 value by 924 percent, a percent gain that is triple the 307 percent increase in U.S. Hispanic buying power. (Selig Center for Economic Growth, Terry College of Business, The University of Georgia, May 2007)

AMERICA IS NOT RACIST...it cares about profits...and that has been the system for years..now the old anglo saxons wants to make america socialist because their old and tired..

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