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Old 10-11-2009, 07:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Well, unemployment won't bother the "undocumented", they are the ones actually working and the group with the lowest unemployment in the USA.......


Pigs do fly...

I actually totally agree with you in this aspect of the debate.
Another sign there is something vastly wrong, going on in this nation and its leadership.

 
Old 10-11-2009, 07:44 AM
 
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Well, unemployment won't bother the "undocumented", they are the ones actually working and the group with the lowest unemployment in the USA.......
Proves our point right there. Why are illegals working but Americans are not? Don't start your BS about Americans being lazy either. Illegals are working because of the greedy, corrupt employers who want cheap illegal labor rather than paying an American a fair wage. There is one industry that the illegals can't cut Americans out of right now as they have in the past and that is the construction industry. It took a tank and caused many of them to leave our country.
 
Old 10-11-2009, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Western Region
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Well, unemployment won't bother the "undocumented", they are the ones actually working and the group with the lowest unemployment in the USA.......
That might be true, and there might be some data to support it currently. However, I have noticed the numbers of "fresh across the border" illegals that hang out in front of my local Home Depot over the past year has gone from what was a ridiculous 300 to 400 illegals to only a dozen. Perhaps they got tired of the white contractors and white laborers who are also hard up for work telling them to GO HOME.

I know these guys over the past year were getting increasingly hard up due to the times I was approached with more than a glance and heads up but I was getting HANDED a card from Jose, to do work.

The corporations may indeed be still keeping illegals employed. We need more laws like Colorado passed where businesses who hire illegals get fined 50 grand on the first offense and loose the right to do biz in the state on the second. Pretty much put an end to the "problem" on large scale and CO remains a difficult environment for illegals.

At the personal level with everyday Americans hiring illegals to do work for them there has been a significant change in the attitude. Many of my contractor buddies will NO LONGER hire illegals and WANT white guys simply because they see how bad things have become.

You may still have some gains,its easy since you come from a country that is major f'd up and does not take care of its OWN people. But the tide here is changing and as Americans continue to struggle you are already seeing an end of the good ole days. Better border patrol and enforcement, a rising disgust toward Latinos for their own selfish agenda and mexican flag waving. You dont love America you only want to serve yourselves and Americans here have been too generous at our own peril.

Live it up! while you still can, the corner has been turned and you will find it ever more increasingly difficult to get away with the bull**** going forward. Many states have already seen what you a/holes have done to LA and San Diego, your spanish radio agenda is getting out to the everyday American that your TRUE colors are red, white, and green and NOT RED WHITE AND BLUE.
 
Old 10-11-2009, 12:22 PM
 
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Proves our point right there. Why are illegals working but Americans are not? Don't start your BS about Americans being lazy either. Illegals are working because of the greedy, corrupt employers who want cheap illegal labor rather than paying an American a fair wage. There is one industry that the illegals can't cut Americans out of right now as they have in the past and that is the construction industry. It took a tank and caused many of them to leave our country.

If you were an employer, like I am, would you rather have an employee who is a lazy drug abuser, that does not care a bit about his job or the company, and produces nothing, always complaining and demanding, or a stand up guy who does his job quietly, efficiently, and never complains????, I think the decission is an easy one.....
 
Old 10-11-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Let’s face it. Most illegals come here to work. And they often take low paying jobs that employers have a hard time filling. We have whole industries based on the labor of illegal aliens. Think of all the work illegal aliens do hand-picking vegetables and fruit in central CA, as gardeners in the big cities, and as construction laborers throughout the state. Sure, illegals don’t pay much in taxes. But I am sick and tire of hearing people complain about them as though they were freeloaders. These people work HARD and serve many useful purposes in our society. We would be much worse off without illegal aliens. MUCH worse off.
Each time an illegal gets a job, another U.S. citizen falls victim to identity theft. That doesn't make the illegals free loaders, it makes them thieves. Thievery is illegal. In exchange for the jobs they do in this country, we pay for their lack of health insurance, car insurance and the health and welfare of their anchor babies. We are paying an unnecessary high cost for low paying labor.

You want an illegal to work in this country, you can pay to "sponsor" him. Be sure to set aside funds for his health insurance, car insurance, be prepared to shell out bucks for his anchor babies and the rest of the jobless family members he tries to sneak into the country.
 
Old 10-11-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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Each time an illegal gets a job, another U.S. citizen falls victim to identity theft. That doesn't make the illegals free loaders, it makes them thieves. Thievery is illegal. In exchange for the jobs they do in this country, we pay for their lack of health insurance, car insurance and the health and welfare of their anchor babies. We are paying an unnecessary high cost for low paying labor.

You want an illegal to work in this country, you can pay to "sponsor" him. Be sure to set aside funds for his health insurance, car insurance, be prepared to shell out bucks for his anchor babies and the rest of the jobless family members he tries to sneak into the country.

More like identity borrowing from friends if at all, In my case I provide them with health insurance, retirement, including profit sharing and a good salary. Here the issue is not paying meager wages, is about getting some bang for your money, please answer to me, who do you rather hire ....
 
Old 10-11-2009, 03:02 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Each time an illegal gets a job, another U.S. citizen falls victim to identity theft. That doesn't make the illegals free loaders, it makes them thieves. Thievery is illegal. In exchange for the jobs they do in this country, we pay for their lack of health insurance, car insurance and the health and welfare of their anchor babies. We are paying an unnecessary high cost for low paying labor.

You want an illegal to work in this country, you can pay to "sponsor" him. Be sure to set aside funds for his health insurance, car insurance, be prepared to shell out bucks for his anchor babies and the rest of the jobless family members he tries to sneak into the country.

This is EXACTLY what is going on here and it's disgusting tax payers.
 
Old 10-11-2009, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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If you were an employer, like I am, would you rather have an employee who is a lazy drug abuser, that does not care a bit about his job or the company, and produces nothing, always complaining and demanding, or a stand up guy who does his job quietly, efficiently, and never complains????, I think the decission is an easy one.....
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More like identity borrowing from friends if at all, In my case I provide them with health insurance, retirement, including profit sharing and a good salary. Here the issue is not paying meager wages, is about getting some bang for your money, please answer to me, who do you rather hire ....
Be careful what you flaunt. You never know who is reading your posts. You may think you are anonymous in cyberspace, but the Feds are pretty resourceful. You just might get a different kind of bang. . . . after the doors close at your local jail or ICE detention center.

BTW, “borrowing” an identity, whether from a friend or stranger, is in fact a criminal offense. Also, I have a feeling the DOL and the IRS might be interested in your little enterprise. Be advised, I know for a fact an IRS agent reads this forum on a daily basis. As a matter of fact, I’ll give her a call just in case she missed your public admission. Keep digging that hole.
 
Old 10-11-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Be careful what you flaunt. You never know who is reading your posts. You may think you are anonymous in cyberspace, but the Feds are pretty resourceful. You just might get a different kind of bang. . . . after the doors close at your local jail or ICE detention center.

BTW, “borrowing” an identity, whether from a friend or stranger, is in fact a criminal offense. Also, I have a feeling the DOL and the IRS might be interested in your little enterprise. Be advised, I know for a fact an IRS agent reads this forum on a daily basis. As a matter of fact, I’ll give her a call just in case she missed your public admission. Keep digging that hole.
Benicar...I wish I could give you rep for that post, but it seems like I've always just given it to you!!!

Just think if more Americans reported businesses who hire illegal immigrants. I have done so in the past and will continue to do so! Law enforcement cannot enforce the laws if they do not know who is breaking them!
 
Old 10-11-2009, 04:30 PM
 
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Benicar...I wish I could give you rep for that post, but it seems like I've always just given it to you!!!

Just think if more Americans reported businesses who hire illegal immigrants. I have done so in the past and will continue to do so! Law enforcement cannot enforce the laws if they do not know who is breaking them!

.... and then, you woke up, LOL
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