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Old 04-04-2010, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Texas
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In 2008, Texas had a gross state product of $1.224 trillion, the second Highest in the U.S. The Gross state product per capita as of 2005 was $42,975.

1.224 Trillion with a "T".

and,

Texas budget chief: Shortfall at least $11 billion

By Kate Alexander | Monday, March 8, 2010, 12:29 PM
Texas’ economy seems to have turned a corner, but the improvement won’t be enough to avoid a significant shortfall next year, top budget officials said Monday.
John Heleman, the comptroller’s chief revenue estimator, said Texas is beginning to add jobs, and he expects sales tax collections to pick up later this year.
In February, the state’s sales tax collections were down 8.8 percent over the same month a year earlier. Though still a negative number, it is better than the 14 percent decrease seen the previous month.
“One month certainly doesn’t make a trend, but it is encouraging to see that we are beginning to move in the right direction,” Heleman said.
The state’s sales tax revenue collection is an important indicator of Texas’s fiscal health because that money fills more than half of the state’s general revenue fund.
Even so, the state’s budget shortfall is expected to be $11 billion at a minimum and could reach as high as $15 billion, John O’Brien, the executive director of the Legislative Budget Board, told the House Appropriations Committee.
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Easy there. Hassling someone for wearing an 'Aztlan' T shirt is silly at best--------that would be akin to a person ragging on somebody for wearing a shirt saying 'The South will rise again'.
Or flying the Confederate flag. At least they speak English in the South.

If he is exercising his free speech, I will exercise mine. He was making a very provacative statement. I need to be careful that it doesn't escalate out of control.

How about, "Sir, I must respectfully disagree with the political objective expressed on your shirt."
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Old 04-05-2010, 07:02 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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That young man, just like the person flying the "Stars and Bars" both are intitled to express thier views irresective of mine.

I have no I idea what someome wearing a Atzlan t-shirt means to convey...no more than someone flying a flag that was never the official flag of the Conferderate States.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:31 AM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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Aztlán (from Nahuatl: Aztlān, [SIZE=3]pronounced [/SIZE][ˈastɬaːn]) is the legendary ancestral home of the Nahua peoples, one of the main cultural groups in Mesoamerica. Aztec is the Nahuatl word for "people from Aztlan".
Legend
Nahuatl legends relate that seven tribes lived in Chicomoztoc, or "the place of the seven caves". Each cave represented a different Nahua group: the Xochimilca, Tlahuica, Acolhua, Tlaxcalan, Tepaneca, Chalca, and Mexica. Because of a common linguistic origin, those groups also are called "Nahuatlaca" (Nahua people). These tribes subsequently left the caves and settled "near" Aztlán, or Aztatlan.
The various descriptions of Aztlán are seemingly contradictory. While some legends describe Aztlán as a paradise, the Aubin Codex says that the Aztecs were subject to a tyrannical elite called the Azteca Chicomoztoca. Guided by their priest, the Aztec fled, and, on the road, their god Huitzilopochtli forbade them to call themselves Azteca, telling them that they should be known as Mexica. Ironically, scholars of the 19th century—in particular, William H. Prescott—would name them Aztec.

The role of Aztlán is slightly less important to Aztec legendary histories than the migration to Tenochtitlán itself. According to the legend, the southward migration began on May 24, 1064 CE; 1064 is also the year of a volcanic explosion at Sunset Crater in Arizona and the first Aztec solar year, beginning on May 24, after the Crab Nebula events from May to July of 1054. Each of the seven groups is credited with founding a different major city-state in Central Mexico. The city-states reputed to have an Aztec foundation were:These city-states formed during the Late Postclassic period of Mesoamerican chronology (ca. 1300–1521 CE).
According to Aztec legends, the Mexica were the last tribe to emigrate. When they arrived at their ancestral homeland, the present-day Valley of Mexico, all available land had been taken, and they were forced to squat on the edge of Lake Texcoco.
After the Spanish conquest of Mexico, the story of Aztlán gained importance and was reported by Fray Diego Durán in 1581 and others to be a kind of Eden-like paradise, free of disease and death, which existed somewhere in the far north. These stories helped fuel Spanish expeditions to what is now the American state of California.

Seems to me to be accurate, despised by their God and forced to squat elsewhere. Yes, where it proudly.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:58 AM
 
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It's shorter than that. Aztlan means "Heart in Mexico, Stomach in USA".
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Old 04-05-2010, 10:40 AM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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Ack-can't edit-where=wear...chuckle.

And yes, accurate indeed malamute.
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Old 04-06-2010, 05:44 AM
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Just a reminder folks, this thread isn't about Aztlan. Continue that road and you'll come to conclusions that have been posted here only a thousand or so times. And the thread will be closed for going off topic.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:48 AM
 
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Texas is going nowhere and anyone who thinks that there is a chance in hell that they will leave the Union are nutjobs of the first order.

But the article does bring an interesting aspect to the immigration debate - one that I really don't see addressed by pro amnesty crowds. That would be this idea of a country without borders. Oddly enough it tends to be only the US that should no longer have borders, but still.....I find it troublesome.
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