Arizona law violates 4th Amendment, I thought conservatives believed in the Constitution? (illegal immigration, Reagan)
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Could the probable cause be tied to racial profile? I don't mind the law being enforced when the person is stopped for another violation that occurs (for example, speeding), but this clause leaves a lot of room for personal interpretation. And this...
Reminds me of taking the issue to the level Nazis did. Perhaps the issue the pastor I referred to in my earlier post is concerned about. He is obligated to serve anybody that shows up at his door step. Now, the government is forcing him into policing behind the robe.
So under this bill the government can come into your home and search it to look for illegal immigrants. Becareful what you wish for.
that means that 4th amendment obliterates law enforcement principle of probable cause.
i dont think so.
the point is the feds are supposed to enforce immigration and defend the borders but they dont so AZ is acting correctly. 20 million illegals here looking for work in a major recession, do you think mexico would put up with this for a minute?
The problem isn't there. I have a problem with LE stopping me in my car or on the street and demanding that I prove my citizenship. That isn't "the land of the free".
Does this mean that the police have a right to go into tea party rallies and demand to see ID from every member at the rally? If Obama did this, would you be ok with it? Yes or no?
Does this mean that the police have a right to go into tea party rallies and demand to see ID from every member at the rally? If Obama did this, would you be ok with it? Yes or no?
Yeah, but they, you see, it would be violation at many levels, a police state, fascism... you name it. I wonder how many non-whites (since whites are likely to be automatically presumed to be legal citizens) are a part of tea party movement in AZ... and I hope there are a good few in count, in line to be stopped and checked for probably reasons.
Printed on my Social Security is: "For Social Security and TAX purposes - NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION (all caps).
FDR never wanted me to show my social security card to no stinking cop.
Do you have a credit card? Did you not need to provide your SSN then? Do you have a checking account? Did you not need to supply it then? When they obtain your SSN they are indeed using it to identify you.
If one is to go off the hyperbole and extreme distrust of any institution exhibited in this thread, it would appear that Politics regulars keep their cash in a jelly jar at home and take a shopping bag full of benjamins to the car dealer when they have to get a new car.
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