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Old 05-22-2010, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Repeal the 14th Amendment.
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Old 05-22-2010, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Actually, that "conspiracy" is against the 16th Amendment and used by Tax protesters (frauds, liars, etc)

You're confusing the two.

The United States Congress proposed the Fourteenth Amendment on June 13, 1866 and, by July 9, 1868, three-fourths of the states (28 of 37) ratified the amendment

In the NPA slave narratives..a former slave stated Southern Whites were not allowed to vote after the War Between the States. Blacks and Yankees were in the Southern state legislatures during the ratification of the 14th Amendment..
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Old 05-22-2010, 04:47 PM
 
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Repeal the 14th Amendment.

nope. then that would make all descendants of slaves, all chinese, all non-white, native american, japanese american current citizens non-citizens.

the repercussions of doing such a repeal will put the American culture an economy into a nose dive that no one would be able to rescue it
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Old 05-22-2010, 04:48 PM
 
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In the NPA slave narratives..a former slave stated Southern Whites were not allowed to vote after the War Between the States. Blacks and Yankees were in the Southern state legislatures during the ratification of the 14th Amendment..
that is false, since alabama and Georgia ratified the 14th Amendment. you know, southern states that were involved in slave ownership and fought in the civil war.
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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what? In the US they'd be considered Natural Born US Citizens; in the home country of their parents, its whatever they determined their citizenship status. Its based on their country's laws, not ours.
Sounds like we need to not only amend the constitution but some treaties too.

Any person that is a citizen of a foreign country, visiting the U.S. with proper immigration status, who has a baby on our soil, our government will contact the embassy for that country, and they will document that person as a citizen of their country, and at the most, that child will have dual citizenship until it reaches the age of 21.

Any person that is a citizen of a foreign country, visiting the U.S. with improper immigration status, who has a baby on our soil, our government will contact the embassy for that country and they will document that person as a citizen of their country, and then when the baby is healthy enough for travel, both child and parent/s will be deported.
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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Sounds like we need to not only amend the constitution but some treaties too.

Any person that is a citizen of a foreign country, visiting the U.S. with proper immigration status, who has a baby on our soil, our government will contact the embassy for that country, and they will document that person as a citizen of their country, and at the most, that child will have dual citizenship until it reaches the age of 21.

Any person that is a citizen of a foreign country, visiting the U.S. with improper immigration status, who has a baby on our soil, our government will contact the embassy for that country and they will document that person as a citizen of their country, and then when the baby is healthy enough for travel, both child and parent/s will be deported.
What you propose is to rewrite the laws of different countries on how they determine citizenship status.

Many countries, like The US, allow dual or even triple citizenship status. Some (like Japan) do not.

However, we are not governed by the laws of other countries, and they are not governed by our laws.

How they determine citizenship is none of our business as its none of their business to interfere or determine our laws.

its very simple really


so you want us to make treaites stating "your children born here our OUR citizens and can't be YOUR citizens'
or "OUR children born in your country is OUR citizens and can't be your citizens"

yeah, a country is going to allow us to dictate that.
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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that is false, since alabama and Georgia ratified the 14th Amendment. you know, southern states that were involved in slave ownership and fought in the civil war.

Who comprised the Southern state legislatures during the ratification of the 14th Amendment?
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:17 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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nope. then that would make all descendants of slaves, all chinese, all non-white, native american, japanese american current citizens non-citizens.

the repercussions of doing such a repeal will put the American culture an economy into a nose dive that no one would be able to rescue it

repeal the anchor baby provision.
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:18 PM
 
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Where in the constitution does it say "anchor baby"

Please point it out exactly
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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nope. then that would make all descendants of slaves, all chinese, all non-white, native american, japanese american current citizens non-citizens.

the repercussions of doing such a repeal will put the American culture an economy into a nose dive that no one would be able to rescue it

The Founders intended it to be this way. Thomas Jefferson said when slaves are freed they are to be colonized..he did not want them in the government. He is a Founder.

Believe what you want but America was founded for White Christians.
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