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Old 12-23-2023, 07:20 AM
 
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any reason at this stage you went with a wellesly wellington combo? that is usually a popular pre retirement- retirement combo rather then growth stage . the two together are about a 50/50
The outsized cash holdings and vanguard combo are at my wife’s direction. I tried for a good while early on to move the allocation but there’s a comfort level for her she wasn’t willing to budge on so I let it go, much better for the marriage and combined earnings growth
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Old 12-23-2023, 07:24 AM
 
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The outsized cash holdings and vanguard combo are at my wife’s direction. I tried for a good while early on to move the allocation but there’s a comfort level for her she wasn’t willing to budge on so I let it go, much better for the marriage and combined earnings growth
Ha ha. Yes the wife factor

I think if my wife had her way we would be a good chunk annuities

It is good she takes an interest
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Old 12-23-2023, 07:36 AM
 
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Problem I see with funds is every single year I get hit with capital gains tax in addition to higher ongoing fees.



I've really become immune to volatility...I really have.....sure from an optics standpoint it stinks, but markets recover and my withdraw rate is low.


Coming up on 7 years retired with my approach and even taking in account of withdrawing money my portfolio is up 65% in total. I'm elated. And the last 7 years have been anything but a smooth ride in the stock market!
July will be 9 years for us and we are still higher then the day we retired

Some of the yearly swings for us have been multiple 6 figures with one single day hitting if I remember 90k
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Old 12-23-2023, 08:05 AM
 
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July will be 9 years for us and we are still higher then the day we retired

Some of the yearly swings for us have been multiple 6 figures with one single day hitting if I remember 90k

Ha...the boat can definitely be rocky! Mentally just surrendering and accepting to that being part of the process is key.
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Old 12-23-2023, 09:28 AM
 
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retired since 2013, wife works.

52 domestic stocks.
8 foreign.
33 bonds.
3 cash.
2 other.

Combo of funds and single stocks. All single-stocks are dividend payers, offering at least a 3% yield. Some, much more. Single-stocks are in the taxable brokerage account. The taxable sleeve is still just less than 14% of total.

It has paid nicely, to be patient over the last two years.
Biggest sector holdings:

Financials. 17.81% of total.
Energy. 17.05%
Healthcare. 14.6%
Tech. 14.42%
Utilities
=7%, quite a bit more than the SP500, at 2.68% (per Morningstar.)

I tried ETFs for a brief period. Too volatile for me. No ETFs now.
Still growing, investing for heirs.

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Old 12-23-2023, 09:56 AM
 
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personally i don’t care whether a dividend or not , if not i create my own .

gains only come from appreciation, how we draw it out is another story …

i prefer as little dividends as i can in my taxable count since they have a poor tax treatment compared to me just taking the same draw from appreciation .

but that is a different topic
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Old 12-23-2023, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Hawaii.
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personally i don’t care whether a dividend or not , if not i create my own .

gains only come from appreciation, how we draw it out is another story …

i prefer as little dividends as i can in my taxable count since they have a poor tax treatment compared to me just taking the same draw from appreciation .

but that is a different topic
Makes sense.
Taxes are not an issue for us. I like the simplicity of knowing the divvies will show up on X day, on a schedule.
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Old 12-23-2023, 10:05 AM
 
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retired since 2013, wife works.

52 domestic stocks.
8 foreign.
33 bonds.
3 cash.
2 other.


Combo of funds and single stocks. All single-stocks are dividend payers, offering at least a 3% yield. Some, much more. Single-stocks are in the taxable brokerage account. The taxable sleeve is still just less than 14% of total.

It has paid nicely, to be patient over the last two years.
Biggest sector holdings:

Financials.
Energy.
Healthcare.
Tech.
Utilities
=7%, quite a bit more than the SP500, at 2.68% (per Morningstar.)

I tried ETFs for a brief period. Too volatile for me. No ETFs now.
Still growing, investing for heirs.

I’m not sure if this was mathjak’s point originally but without dollars or percentages the bolded breakdown is meaningless really
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Old 12-23-2023, 10:09 AM
 
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we fund our spending for the year once a year now….we make any portfolio changes and raise the cash we are short for the upcoming year .

all dividends and interest on bond funds get reinvested in the retirement accounts while in the taxable accounts we let them accumulate starting to fill that second years income .

so until we refill at years end we don’t care when , if or how any interest or dividends come in .

we found it way to difficult to try to eat hand to mouth with using the current years dividends and interest since bills don’t flow to match .

we found it much easier to just go buffer them and then at years end just fill the gap between what we got and what we need for the new year

Last edited by mathjak107; 12-23-2023 at 10:19 AM..
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Old 12-23-2023, 10:10 AM
 
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I’m not sure if this was mathjak’s point originally but without dollars or percentages the bolded breakdown is meaningless really
looking at percentage of total LIQUID assets the different holdings represent

like my equities are 51% of total liquid assets including cash.

i am assuming that what they posted is percentages
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