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Old 11-17-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Do what is best for you. Companies will always do what is in their best interests, and would not hesitate to let you go if there was a reason. Take the next best offer and see how it goes until next July.
What Enigma777 said in a nut-shell. Make some money if you can. Don't worry about hurting your employers feelings. They certainly won't worry about yours when and if they decide to get rid of you.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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It isn't necessarily a bad thing to resign from a job after 6 months. Many companies lay people off or fire them after a few months or after many years of dedication.

If there is no contract/firm commitment given to stay for a certain amount of time, then it's not a bad thing to resign (any more than it is a bad thing for the company to let you go). It goes both ways.

There is no longer loyalty of a long term commitment like many years ago. A company will drop employees if it is in their best interest. It's business, not personal. And employees have started doing the same. It's business, not personal.

It's only a "bad thing" if you signed a contract or gave a commitment/promise to stay a certain amt of time.
If you except employment and do not talk about the job ending or you quitting in the short term, then both parties are under the justifiable impression that the position is long term in nature. An employer that gives a new hire an impression that a position will be long term while knowing full well the position will end in a few months is being deceitful. The reverse is also true. Trying to justify this type of act "It's business, not personal", is really just trying to put your mind at ease. It doesn't change the fact you are a lier. I would NEVER hire an employee under such false pretenses.

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No job is permanent. No company gives any promise of permanent employment. You could be let go 1 month or 1 year after starting due to budget issues or outsourcing or because a project was cancelled. If the company makes no promises, the employee certainly doesn't make a one sided promise to stay permanently. And all parties know this.[
You left out the part of my quote about conditions changing and that it is OK to leave with condition change.

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In IT, it is very common to see employees change companies every 1.5 years, on average. It's not uncommon to see a 6 month gig.
Of course they leave quickly, after 6 months they have already told the entire company to reboot and call back in 6 months. After 6 months things start catching up to them. If it is common to have employees change that quickly, why not be upfront in the first place, why is there a need to be deceitful?
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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A bird in the hand, my friend. They can back out, you can back out... nothing's certain. Your "temp" job might turn out to be the one you want.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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Do what you think is best, just remember that the company you are screwing over will not like it one bit. You are wasting their time and money. They will not hire you if they know you are planning on quitting after six months.

It is a small world out there, especially within specific industries such as finance/IT. Yes, companies do the same thing, but companies have all the leverage. If they are looking for new employees, there will be thousands of people applying. On the other hand, if you are looking for a new job after getting terminated, I say good luck to you give the high unemployment rates and massive amounts of competition.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:48 PM
 
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OP, is the job for an Associates position at JP Morgan? I wouldn't worry so much about the offer being rescinded. Try to start earlier if you can.

You are early in your career and you don't want to have a negative mark on your history with another major financial employer. Especially if you could possibly want to apply to them in the future. Quitting after 6 months could come back to bite you on the butt.

You sound like a savvy person. Look for some actual temp work to tie you over until the JPM job begins.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:18 PM
 
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I find it shameful the number of people that are willing to post comments that are basically stating "that it is OK to do bad things because other people do bad things". Those comments reflect negatively on those posting them. I agree with jghorton, now it the time for you to decide if you want to be the person that always manipulate things to his advantage and the disadvantage of other (ie self-center jerk) or the person with integrity. While neither road is a guarantee for success, the person with integrity will have true friends to fall back on and will not have to constantly worry if someone you backstabbed will catch up with you. The jerk on the other hand will have many people that will enjoy watching him fall if he trips.
You find it shameful that people are wanting to do what's best for themselves?

So you admit that companies do "bad things" because they hire people then let them go later? And that's okay but it's not okay for someone to take a job knowing they might have another job lined up in 7 months?

You are making business personal when it's not. It's BUSINESS. If someone takes a job, it's NEVER permanent, it's "permanent until they don't need you anymore." You're talking about integrity and backstabbing like you are talking about someone cheating on their bf with his best friend, it's a JOB!
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:12 PM
 
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It starts in July based on the traditional graduation schedule. You just happen to be graduating in December.

Get another temp job in the meantime.

As an employer, I can tell you that I invest a lot of $$ in training you, setting you up with various work-related accounts, business cards etc., and you will be wasting my time and money if you commit to a job then quit after 6 months.
Yes but an employer can fire you anytime they want for no reason at all!! You should be able to leave ANYTIME for no reason at all!!
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:17 PM
 
Location: NYC
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take the JPM offer and something else in the meantime. as long as you give sufficient notice (perhaps consider 4 weeks instead of 2 if you find you like the people you work with) it's perfectly fine. no sane employer will blame you for leaving for a better opportunity, especially a young worker finding his/her way. and no one has to know you have had the offer in your back pocket all along

besides, for all you know you will fall in love with the first place and go on to decline JPM. or the first place will make a better counter offer when you give notice

good luck
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Old 11-17-2013, 10:24 PM
 
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You find it shameful that people are wanting to do what's best for themselves?

So you admit that companies do "bad things" because they hire people then let them go later? And that's okay but it's not okay for someone to take a job knowing they might have another job lined up in 7 months?

You are making business personal when it's not. It's BUSINESS. If someone takes a job, it's NEVER permanent, it's "permanent until they don't need you anymore." You're talking about integrity and backstabbing like you are talking about someone cheating on their bf with his best friend, it's a JOB!
I guess your premise is that it's OK to be deceitful, because some companies are deceitful. Following that premise into other areas, it's OK to cheat on your spouse because other spouses have cheated. It's OK to steal from from store because they over price items. It's OK to cut someone off in traffic because someone else in the past cut you off. Where do you draw the line on deceitful actions.

A deceitful act is a deceitful act. One deceitful act doesn't make a second deceitful act right. It doesn't matter if it is the employee taking the job they know they will quit or the employer hire someone he will fire in a few months.

Remember decision are made by people. So as long as there are people out there that think being deceitful is OK, we will have these type of issues. So take the high road and do what's right.
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Do you think they'd care if they had to lay you off in 6 months? Been there done that. Do what's best for you, they would be doing the same.
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