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Old 07-15-2014, 03:47 PM
 
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I still say scam, just by voice rather then e-mail, or IM. Now I want to post a resume just so I can encounter these evildoers myself.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:17 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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About 3-4x a week or sometimes in one day I get cold calls from various IT recruiters with heavy Indian accent that sounds like this..

"I'm calling from _____ company we are an IT Services Company and I found your profile on LinkedIn that matches the skillsets that we are looking for." My client is a fortune 500 company who is looking to hire someone with your skillsets.

Tell me what is your hourly rate and when can you be available? Are you willing to do a phone interview and then if you pass my client can meet you for face to face."


And usually they sound very cocky and tells you the rate the client is paying is very good and they won't go below the offered rate but will you back in 2 days to negotiate either W-2 or somewhere close to your asking rate.

At times I can't even make out what the person is talking about and I just tell them to send me the details and Job req in an email.

The worst part is I get 3-4 recruiters calling about the same exact job posted on Monster or other job bulletin. Say Citibank is hiring an IT Architect paying $100/hr, I would get 5-6 calls about the same position from different callers and they all sound almost exactly the same.

Maybe once a month I get a real American recruiter calling and want to talk about possible consulting/free-lancing projects and looking for top notch IT consultant in the area to join their IT services company.
How many contracts have you actually gotten thru LinkedIn ? If you want to get rid of these obnoxious Indian recruiters, either remove your LinkedIn profile from public view, delete your contact info or delete your LinkedIn account. Do the same for Dice, Indeed, Monster, etc unless you are directly applying for the position you want with your resume.

To get your resume in the right hands, find out where you might want to work in your area and make a list of corporations or other entities. For each, do a little Google research on who might be in an IT managerial position with some hiring power. Get the corporate address from the internet and send them the proper cover letter along with your resume. If it's not the right person, chances are that the recipient will get your resume into the right hands. This will eliminate the middle man in most cases, at least initially. If later the firm wants your services and tells you you have to come in through a preferred vendor, so be it. And also depending on who you reach, cold calling the IT department can sometimes get you the correct person to which to send your information.

In the meantime, block the calls from the Indian recruiters ...
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Metro NYC
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sometimes if i'm bored, i toy with them if they're contacting me about a job that's far away.

One time one called me about a job in scranton, pa. Since i'm in texas, that's obviously really far away. :d

here's how the convo went:

Him: (bad english) helloiamcallingforjobopportunityofdatabasedevelope rwithclientinscrantonp.a. (he spelled p.a.)
me: Scranton's really far away. I'm in dallas.
Him: Youcouldcommute
me: Do you have a map?
Him: No
me: It's 1,500 miles away in another state and another time zone.
Him: Youcouldcommute
me: 1,500 miles is over 2,400 kilometers, so no, i can't commute.
Him: Youcouldtakeairplane
me: Not every day, i couldn't. I couldn't afford it anyway.
Him: Companycouldpay
me: No, they wouldn't pay hundreds per day for me to take an airplane to scranton, pennsylvania.
Him: Youcouldstayinhotel
me: That's also very expensive
him: Youcouldrelocate
me: For a three month contract?
Him: Thereisopportunityforcontracttobeextended
me: No.
Him: For37hourw2?
Me: *click*
rotflmao!
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:31 PM
 
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Maybe once a month I get a real American recruiter calling and want to talk about possible consulting/free-lancing projects and looking for top notch IT consultant in the area to join their IT services company.
If your methods are not providing enough of the *proper leads* then change how you do things.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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Just based on my frustration in calling home p.c. tech support lines, I've been tempted to say, "I'm sorry, I can't understand you. And you're name's not Steve!!!"
Why not call tech support *before* you buy a product? If it's not up to your standards then try a different company.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:36 PM
 
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Basically you're surrounded by it all day at work...in poorly-written e-mails, phone conversations, etc. Also, Indians LOVE to talk on the phone.
We should be clear that it is not about "indians." It's about certain people. Some people go the extra mile to ensure they do their job properly and some do not. It doesn't matter what country they are from.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:39 PM
 
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I can't believe this shift in the industry actually saves a company money in the long term.
It does not save money in the long run. There are other costs involved that catch up in the long term. BUT!!! If you are going to start a biz and run it for a year or two then sell it you can make your costs to revenues appear quite good by using this approach.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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One way to get around that is to purchase computers that have US-based tech support.
That's the answer! Vote with your money. That's how things get changed.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Sometimes if I'm bored, I toy with them if they're contacting me about a job that's far away.

One time one called me about a job in Scranton, PA. Since I'm in Texas, that's obviously REALLY FAR AWAY.

Here's how the convo went:

Him: (bad English) HelloIamcallingforjobopportunityofdatabasedevelope rwithclientinScrantonP.A. (he spelled P.A.)
Me: Scranton's really far away. I'm in Dallas.
Him: Youcouldcommute
Me: Do you have a map?
Him: No
Me: It's 1,500 miles away in another state and another time zone.
Him: Youcouldcommute
Me: 1,500 miles is over 2,400 kilometers, so no, I can't commute.
Him: Youcouldtakeairplane
Me: Not every day, I couldn't. I couldn't afford it anyway.
Him: Companycouldpay
Me: No, they wouldn't pay hundreds per day for me to take an airplane to Scranton, Pennsylvania.
Him: Youcouldstayinhotel
Me: That's also very expensive
Him: Youcouldrelocate
Me: For a three month contract?
Him: Thereisopportunityforcontracttobeextended
Me: No.
Him: For37hourw2?
Me: *Click*

Now see, I would mess with them by agreeing to commute, asking how much the company would pay for me to travel each day, which airlines is best to fly, where does the caller think the best hotel is, when should I make reservations for both the flight and the room, etc.

I remember a few years ago when I seemed to be on everyone's list, I would get calls to donate money to various charities. As soon as they identified themselves I'd jump in with, "Oh, thank God you called. You must have heard I have two in college and I could use the money. When might I be expecting a check, and do you know how much I'll be getting?"

At least they would laugh before ending the call.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:45 PM
 
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They never deliver. Ever.
Sure they do. They deliver developers that are low cost. You are probably just the "high priced" example they use to compare with others.
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