[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by logline

How does one report this to the USDA? I'm sure Smith's will get a smack down from the government if they are found guilty.

They will receive no such smackdown. First of all, nobody in the government has our backs. "Us" being the consumers. Second, the USDA is horribly understaffed. (When people call for a smaller government, the government responds by shrinking the most useful things that they do, leaving the military with everything the military wants.) Finally, Smith's ran this through their legal department -- there is no doubt of that. They go right up to the line of what is illegal without crossing it.

The only thing people can do is educate themselves and be smarter consumers. And I'd be amazed if even one in 10 people will bother. (And in Las Vegas, I'd be amazed if that number was better than one in 100.)

Remember the old movie "The Magnificent Seven?" The bad guy, Eli Wallach, says to the gunfighters as he is busy stealing from the villagers' town, "If God didn't want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep."

Well, that's the way the grocery stores look at the public -- sheep to be sheared. That is the only way you can explain what's happening with olive oil, beef, water, wine, and the other blatant rip-offs perpetrated on the American shopper today.

[Raiderman]

Originally Posted by winter-rabbit

I like to add to the discussion:

There is no such thing as Kobe beef in America. Why? Because Japan does not allow beef export out of Kobe region, period. Not to any single country.

If a fine dining restaurant offers Kobe beef instead of calling it "American Kobe", it is playing off consumer naiveté.

Your information is a little outdated. There are slight amounts available in the States.

The New Truth About Kobe Beef: Scarce Amounts Now Available In The U.S., But Not In Europe - Forbes

[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by winter-rabbit

I like to add to the discussion:

There is no such thing as Kobe beef in America. Why? Because Japan does not allow beef export out of Kobe region, period. Not to any single country.

If a fine dining restaurant offers Kobe beef instead of calling it "American Kobe", it is playing off consumer naiveté.

The ban was lifted in 2012. It IS possible to get real Kobe beef from Kobe prefecture in Japan. And you can go to Artisanal Food on Sunset Blvd. and buy some Japanese A5 today (It doesn't come from Kobe, but it's the same cows). Just expect to pay around $90 per pound for it. The fraudsters out there are still selling plenty of the fake "Kobe" as well. It's easy enough to tell the fake from the real deal.

The New Truth About Kobe Beef: Scarce Amounts Now Available In The U.S., But Not In Europe - Forbes

[winter-rabbit]

I need to head over to Japan and bite a cow in the ass. That's how good this meat is.

Originally Posted by ScoopLV

The ban was lifted in 2012. It IS possible to get real Kobe beef from Kobe prefecture in Japan. And you can go to Artisanal Food on Sunset Blvd. and buy some Japanese A5 today (It doesn't come from Kobe, but it's the same cows). Just expect to pay around $90 per pound for it. The fraudsters out there are still selling plenty of the fake "Kobe" as well. It's easy enough to tell the fake from the real deal.

The New Truth About Kobe Beef: Scarce Amounts Now Available In The U.S., But Not In Europe - Forbes

[johninvegas]

You know, this "Angus Beef" thing is really funny. As Scoop says, Angus is a breed of cattle, not a grade. All the stores make out like it's something really special. I lived in Missouri in the 70s and 80s and we didn't know what a great thing Angus was, as pretty much all the beef in the stores was Angus beef. It was the only kind of beef cattle raised around there, so naturally, that's what we got at the stores.

We always said if you really wanted good beef, you'd get some Charolais crossbreeds.

[lanb]

Does anyone know where we can get local/fresh goat meat in the LV area ?

The Halal meat markets seem to be selling frozen goat meat from New Zealand or Australia.

P.S - Goat meat, not Lamb

[swagger]

Originally Posted by lanb

Does anyone know where we can get local/fresh goat meat in the LV area ?

The Halal meat markets seem to be selling frozen goat meat from New Zealand or Australia.

P.S - Goat meat, not Lamb

Don't know about local/fresh, but if you're willing to have frozen shipped to you, I've bought buffalo from this place and was very pleased.

You could also check with Larry's Great Western Meats on Valley View. Just picked up a pork shoulder from them this afternoon. They have some less common frozen stuff.

[mojavedxer]

Larry's or Village Meat and Wine on eastern may have it.

[NLVgal]

Originally Posted by lanb

Does anyone know where we can get local/fresh goat meat in the LV area ?

The Halal meat markets seem to be selling frozen goat meat from New Zealand or Australia.

P.S - Goat meat, not Lamb

I'd bet Jon Mull's meats would have it.

Yup- Sure enough

Goat

[jlawrence01]

Originally Posted by momofvegasgirls

Beware of mechanically tenderized meats! That stuff is not good for you, unless you plan on cooking your meat to 160 degrees (well done) internally.

In general, the ONLY meat that is tenderized are less tender cuts which will need to be cooked for quite a while by the appropriate methods to get tender.