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Old 10-25-2020, 09:08 AM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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I keep this alternative Hach kit at my homes:

https://smile.amazon.com/Hach-145300..._t1_B00N3YPOUG

When it is time to replace, I may try the one you recommend instead.
Those are good kits - no doubt. I gave the link to it in a follow-up comment, but like I said - I'm just paranoid about kids and pets getting hold of the liquid. But the 5B is a solid kit that provides reliable results.
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Old 10-25-2020, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Merida, Yucatan, Mexico
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Water softeners are remarkably simple machines. When I buy a new house, I just buy the water softener parts and assemble the system myself, and install it on the water softener loop myself. Of course, I don't suggest your mom do that - but she CAN save some money.

There are 4 main parts:
  • the resin tank (that's where the magic happens and looks sort of like an over-sized cylindrical SCUBA tank),
  • the actual water softening resin (shaped like miniature orange kind-of-plastic BBs)
  • the brine tank (that's where salt goes),
  • and the valve controller that screws into the top of the resin tank after you fill it with resin.
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The Fleck 5600 Econominder is the one I've recommended for over 40 years.
I'm renovating a house in Mexico where I intend to install a water softener. The water in that location makes Las Vegas water seem soft.

Based what I've read here and elsewhere, I'm sold on the Fleck Econominder head.

Would you recommend I go RationalExpectations' route and piece together parts to build a system, or buy a ready-built system and then change the head to the Fleck? Are water softener parts mix and match?

I visit family frequently in LV, and if necessary, could get the Fleck head there and carry it down to Mexico in luggage.
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Old 10-26-2020, 06:42 AM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Would you recommend I go RationalExpectations' route and piece together parts to build a system, or buy a ready-built system and then change the head to the Fleck? Are water softener parts mix and match?

I visit family frequently in LV, and if necessary, could get the Fleck head there and carry it down to Mexico in luggage.
You've got a unique situation..... About the only way I'd do a head-only swap-out is if I was also replacing the resin and distributor. Too many wild cards on this - is it feasible to buy a complete unit and either transport it yourself, or have it shipped? Many systems are built similarly, but the second you presume they're the same, there's gonna be something different - and some of the parts would be a REAL challenge finding in Mexico. I used to pre-assemble entire systems, actually get them running - then disassemble and ship them. It was the only way I found to be 100% sure I had everything needed when I got there. You wouldn't need to go to that extreme with just a softener - but I WOULD buy it all from the same vendor and then ship/transport after a thorough inspection.
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Old 10-26-2020, 06:54 AM
 
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I'm renovating a house in Mexico where I intend to install a water softener.
If you're going to contemplate buying the pieces and assembling them yourself, just buy the valve controller you want in the first case - the Fleck 5600 Econominder. That way there is no need to swap heads; you have the right one in the first place.

I'll second TexasRednecks's suggestion for you that you buy all the components from a single vendor. That will make life much simpler for you. The question for you is finding a Mexican vendor who does this, or a US one who ships internationally. My guess - just a guess - you're much better off finding a Mexican vendor.

Fleck is owned by Pentair, which is a large global company and well-respected in water treatment. Try contacting Pentair directly and ask them for an online distributor/vendor of complete water softener systems in Mexico that you can contact. It might make it simpler if that distributor/vendor is located in the same Mexican State where your house is.


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Edit: Don't forget you'll need to purchase bulk water softener salt. Make sure there is a convenient retailer to where your house is.

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Old 10-26-2020, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Southern Highlands
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Edit: Don't forget you'll need to purchase bulk water softener salt.
I can't think of any reason why. Surely Mexico has stores that sell bags of salt.
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Old 10-26-2020, 03:32 PM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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I can't think of any reason why. Surely Mexico has stores that sell bags of salt.
They do. I've installed and started a number of systems in Mexico and never had an issue finding softener salt.
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Old 10-26-2020, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Merida, Yucatan, Mexico
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@TexasRedneck, @RationalExpectations and @Cold Warrior: Thanks for your feedback. I guess I was overly simplistic and optimistic, and will need to find a local (Mexican) supplier.

Another thing I hope to find is a salt supplier who has potassium chloride vs the more usual sodium chloride. On a Mexican FB group, I read that it was available from swimming pool supply places. Which brings up another question: Is there any down side to using potassium chloride? I know the health advantage, but have not seen any potential disadvantages.
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Old 10-26-2020, 05:49 PM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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@TexasRedneck, @RationalExpectations and @Cold Warrior: Thanks for your feedback. I guess I was overly simplistic and optimistic, and will need to find a local (Mexican) supplier.

Another thing I hope to find is a salt supplier who has potassium chloride vs the more usual sodium chloride. On a Mexican FB group, I read that it was available from swimming pool supply places. Which brings up another question: Is there any down side to using potassium chloride? I know the health advantage, but have not seen any potential disadvantages.
What "health advantage" do you think there is? There's been a LOT of marketing hype about "salf free", but it's just that - hype. You get more sodium from a can of green beans than you do soft water.
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Old 10-26-2020, 08:01 PM
 
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IIRC the salt is only used to clean something inside the softener, it doesn't go into the water itself as part of the softening process.
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Old 10-27-2020, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Southern Highlands
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IIRC the salt is only used to clean something inside the softener, it doesn't go into the water itself as part of the softening process.
A small amount of salt does go into the water. That is why there is a separate water line for the kitchen.
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