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Its legal discrimination because its a private owned church, but its still discrimination to ban people based on sexual orientation.
The girl isn't banned; she was given an alternative to asking a prom date. No where does it say she was banned.
The Catholic Church does not ban gays. It is considered a sin to allow or encourage homosexual activity. Allowing a lesbian to bring a same sex date (her ex girlfriend, with whom she probably engaged in homosexual activity) is encouraging or condoning homosexual activity. As I've previously written: the person in charge, a Brother, a devout Catholic, would be sinning if he allowed the young woman to bring her ex girlfriend as a date. In terms of sins, this is a big one.
Practicing one's faith is not discrimination. Preventing a person from practicing one's faith by expecting them to make a decision which is a sin, is.
The ironic thing is that the Catholic Church is the universal Church. It accepts everyone -including homosexuals- and has always accepted everyone for 2,000 years. It has sanctified its members by introducing a moral code which leads to spiritual enlightenment.
Now within the "land of the free" this Church which was founded by Jesus himself can not operate in the USA unless it acquiesces to the moral code of the ruling class. Any other moral code it seems is not allowed if it does not acquiesce to the ruling class moral code.
This is the same moral code relentlessly pounded into our heads by public schools, TV, internet and enforced by cooperate America. 50 years of social engineering in schools, colleges, workplaces and on TV have lead to a population that can not see the long term consequences of its actions. our actions not only affect us but they affect the next generations. People can not make connections between behavior and consequences in this environment that makes every perverted impulse a "right". Now the Church is being strong armed into operating under the ruling class moral code and it is being strong armed by media to grant license for sodomy.
This is the same moral code that kills babies by the millions and has destroyed the family of the working class. Where are the rights for the millions killed? The truth is that this is rule of might is right. The might says that homosexuals are the new social model to follow and their cause is championed at every turn in the ruling class social engineering machine. Where are the rights for those that want to operate under their own moral code; a moral code that has nurtured western culture for 2,000 years? Do only those selected by the ruling class as "special" those that indulge in decadent behavior have rights? Can a moral wrong really be a right?
Now that the family has been largely ruined among the poor it seems that sodomy is the new avant garde of ruling class degeneracy to ruin the family for the rest of us. Dance to the ruling class tune or else. Seems like only a few -usually those of faith- have the social and cultural awareness to resist the social engineering ideological subversion. The rest of the sheep dance to the ruling class tune.
A fool and his tithe are soon parted.Replace "same sex date" with "black date". Still not discrimination? Or just that you don't recognize homosexuality as something worthy of the label?
No one is stopping her from taking a male of any race to the prom. There is nothing in Catholicism (to the best of my Catechism memories) which makes interracial dating a sin. The thread is not about that, though.
She isn't banned from the prom.
Telling Catholics what to do and not respecting their religious beliefs is discrimination. You wouldn't tell a Muslim woman not to donn a burqua. You wouldn't prevent a Muslim from bowing to Mecca. Perhaps Islamic law pertaining to homosexuality should be challenged by those of you who feel homosexuals are being discriminated against. http://www.religionfacts.com/homosexuality/islam.htm.
Yet people feel it is OK to demand the church go completely against it's teachings.
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No one is stopping her from taking a male of any race to the prom. There is nothing in Catholicism (to the best of my Catechism memories) which makes interracial dating a sin. The thread is not about that, though.
She isn't banned from the prom.
Telling Catholics what to do and not respecting their religious beliefs is discrimination. You wouldn't tell a Muslim woman not to donn a burqua. You wouldn't prevent a Muslim from bowing to Mecca. Perhaps Islamic law pertaining to homosexuality should be challenged by those of you who feel homosexuals are being discriminated against. Homosexuality and Islam - ReligionFacts.
Yet people feel it is OK to demand the church go completely against it's teachings.
During the days of Loving V Virginia those who were against interracial dating/ marriage often used the bible as justification for their horrific views. Perhaps its not an argument the Catholic Church made, but those against it used the bible as justification, same as those who today use the bible to justify discrimination and bigotry against gays.
Due to the fact that St Anthony's is a private school, they can generally do what they want, and the laws against discrimination in a case like this may not apply to them. However, that does not make the actions taken here any less discriminatory.
Practicing one's faith is not discrimination. Preventing a person from practicing one's faith by expecting them to make a decision which is a sin, is.
I've never, ever heard this excuse before. So not only do we as people sin on our own, but now we must police others because those sins reflect upon us as well?
What?
I also didn't realize that sins were charted from least to greatest in terms of offense to the almighty.
That seems to be more of a social ramification of human twisting, wouldn't you agree? I mean, a sin is a sin, is a sin.
Preventing a person from "practicing" something harmless to another, such as their sexuality and expecting them to refrain from such behavior is indeed discrimination.
I always thought that homosexuality was only a sin in the eyes of the catholic church only if acted upon? Last I read, this girl was not planning on taking her date to prom and fornicating with her there.
Harmless? The millions that have died from AIDS -many unwitting blood transfusion victims- would have a strong case that homosexual sex is not harmless. By removing the social mores that have protected millions the ruling class are plunging millions of uninformed children into a sin that will forever stain their soul.
It is from chastity and self restraint which charity flows. By engineering society -through the media, the schools and corporate machine- to be hostile to chastity and self restraint the ruling class is launching a direct attack on the charity required of parents to form a family.
There are plenty of long term social ramifications of promoting homosexual intercourse. Sex has a indispensable function in society, it is the glue that brings forth the next generation. It is the adhesive that forms the family group; the family group is the basic cell of society. From these basic cells are transmitted a cultures mores and morals. For a few generations -starting with the Bolsheviks in the USSR- the ruling class has desired the elimination of the family so children can be directly socialized by the state dictated mores. This promotion of homosexual perversion is the means that is finally allowing the ruling class to reach the ends of eliminating the family as the transmitter of culture.
Redefining sex as a means for personal pleasure disorders the divine purpose of the act. It takes an expression of life and makes it an expression of death. Homosexual sex always leads to death while the rightly ordered conjugal sex is the only sex act that leads to life. By protecting the rightly ordered heterosexual marriage a society protects the divine rights of the next generation. You have as much right to sodomize your friend as you have to rub your genitals against a tree. A moral wrong can never be a right.
Those in the social engineering machine are not protecting personal rights. The rhetoric about rights is a cover story to fool the masses into introducing the evil of sin into their family while subsequently fooling the masses into thinking they still hold the moral high ground. With a battery of social engineering tools -media, schools, corporate culture, eg.- at their disposal it seems like they are achieving their ends of subverting family into a mere relationship of convenience.
Those culturally aware are not fooled. The ruling class social engineers are merchants of death disordering a desire that is the glue that holds together the basic unit of society - the family- into a behavior that plunges the soul into the dead end of self centered pleasure. A dead end that ensures that the next generation is eliminated. This is the fruit of sin.
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Originally Posted by OhAcid
I've never, ever heard this excuse before. So not only do we as people sin on our own, but now we must police others because those sins reflect upon us as well?
What?
I also didn't realize that sins were charted from least to greatest in terms of offense to the almighty.
That seems to be more of a social ramification of human twisting, wouldn't you agree? I mean, a sin is a sin, is a sin.
Preventing a person from "practicing" something harmless to another, such as their sexuality and expecting them to refrain from such behavior is indeed discrimination.
I always thought that homosexuality was only a sin in the eyes of the catholic church only if acted upon? Last I read, this girl was not planning on taking her date to prom and fornicating with her there.
This one is looking for popularity. I do not believe it's mandatory to go with a date to the prom. Besides, why one goes to a Catholic School if the school doesn't fit.
At prom there are many other girls. She could find entertainment anyway...
There is nothing in Catholicism (to the best of my Catechism memories) which makes interracial dating a sin. The thread is not about that, though.
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daniel carver says its in the bible.
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homosexuals are called to chastity
