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But at 65 medicare becomes the primary insurance and the districts plan supplements that. What is the cost of a medicare eligible retiree's plan? Should be a lot less, no? I will try to find out.
How about the droves of teachers who retire at 55 and get 10 years' of health insurance on the taxpayers' dime? Not only for themselves, but for their FAMILY.
I wish my job would let me retire at 55 and provide a health insurance plan until I am Medicare age.
The taxpayers should not be responsible for this. If they want to retire early, then they should get their OWN health insurance like everybody else (in the private sector) has to.
How about the droves of teachers who retire at 55 and get 10 years' of health insurance on the taxpayers' dime? Not only for themselves, but for their FAMILY.
I wish my job would let me retire at 55 and provide a health insurance plan until I am Medicare age.
The taxpayers should not be responsible for this. If they want to retire early, then they should get their OWN health insurance like everybody else (in the private sector) has to.
Just pointing out that the healthcare is not really "for life".
Not to worry, "Steamroller Andy" will make sure everyone works alot longer.
You're delusional. My DS' former kindergarten teacher was making $125K last time I checked a few years ago, with 20 years service. That's for 6 hours a day with a bunch of 5 year olds.
Six hours a day with a bunch of 5-year-olds and that's ALL he/she was making?
Seriously, though, that is a bit much. Maybe. Depends on how many "a bunch" is. Say, more than three.
My niece is a kindergarten teacher. She made nothing near that on Long Island, but she also didn't have 20 years of service before leaving for the educational pit of despair that is Florida, where her salary was almost in "why bother" territory. Fortunately, they got out of there. Not sure if she'll teach in their new state (not New York).
There is a lot more ca$h out there than just tips. Completely different topic but the cash economy is huge.
When you're comparing the 'average' teacher -- who is employed by a school district, to the average plumber -- who is employed by a plumbing company (trying to keep it as level as possible) the plumber employee will not be seeing cash other than tips. Many of the larger companies are working for companies who in turn pay them via check. It's the small, independent guys who might have an underground cash business.
Then again, those teachers who are being hired as tutors on the side are doing a nice cash business, too.
Originally Posted by Quick Commenter A 'gym teacher' making 150,000.00 a few years back was a rare bird unless he was racking up the coaching, drivers ed, supervision, or extracurricular stipends. Or, he was teaching an extra class - and this does happen. It is not at all unusual for a 'gym teacher' to be the highest compensated teacher in a district - given the availability of coaching stipends. At this point I don't think any teachers on long island earn a base salary of over $140,000.00 and those would be at the 30+ year mark
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Go to SeeThroughNY :: Home and look up compensation in your school district. It is not such a rare bird and also happens sooner than the 30 year mark.
I went to the site, I only could view net pay (coaching and extracurricular) not base pay. Nevertheless, one teacher, whom I happen to know is a three sport varsity coach, earned over 150K in 2010. He has been there forever too. No other teacher had a NET pay of over 150K. Rare bird inded. FYI I did see 11 administrators earning over 150K which might account for some of the confusion.
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Originally Posted by Quick Commenter At this point I don't think any teachers on long island earn a base salary of over $140,000.00 and those would be at the 30+ year mark.
The latest available data on STNY is from 2008. Central Islip SD...
The first 15 results made over $140k base salary and most made over $200k after whatever additional stipends they earned.
$205k $202k $197k $179k $174k $173k etc...
My wife is a teacher and she worked hard to get her degree (and we are still drowning in student loans) but when she reaches some of the higher steps in another 8 years or so, I think she'll be overpaid.
I checked the site and saw an enormous number of administrators as the top 20 earners but very few teachers with a base gross pay over 140,000.00 out of the hundreds of teachers employed at Central Islip. And those are 2010 and 2011 numbers. Eight years from now things may be a bit more costly - don't promise to give back your wife's salary yet.
That's not what I was asking. I was asking for the source of the info that made the poster think people need to make at least $200,000 on LI to live comfortably these days...
Just pointing out that the healthcare is not really "for life".
Not to worry, "Steamroller Andy" will make sure everyone works alot longer.
Yes Medicare comes in at 65, but many people carry their existing health plan even after to cover expenses not included, why would a teacher get rid of a plan that is covered for life by their district (including dental by the way).
It depends on the district and what benefits they were hired under. It doesn't have anything to do with how long you've worked, benefits don't change, it's based on what "tier" you were hired under.
NYS Tiers have nothing to do with health benefits, Tiers apply to pension, health care payments are negotiated by each district as you mentioned and vary widely.
It depends on the district. I know teachers in about 6 different districts and not one of them has free healthcare.
I don't have my wife's check stub in front of me but I think our plan is 165 or 175 a month. Not exactly free.
The "cadillac" plan at my job (which is actually better than my wifes insurance) is $205 a month. Coverage that is basically the same as my wifes is something like $195.
If you can get a major health plan like Blue Cross, with Optical and Dental thrown in you are doing fantastic, some residents are paying those prices for next to nothing in health care.
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