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Old 11-07-2013, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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I was 17 and 18 in classes with 14 year olds and I was never left back. I had to fill my schedule with nonsense electives after I satisfied my core class requirements.
The "kids" I'm talking about have all been left back for one reason or another (failing, absences, suspensions, expulsions, etc). They're not in the classes because they failed to take electives when they should have.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I'm wondering.... in the public schools, at what age do "kids" age out of high school?? Example: My child is in high school. In 9th grade, she had "kids" in her class who were 17,18, and 19 years old who had failed, been left back, etc. Seriously??? I don't want adult MEN in a classroom with my 14 year old!

Why do the schools allow this?? Is there some kind of education law on how long the school has to continue to let them attend?

I understand a 17 or 18 year old may be a senior in high school but these "kids" are getting left back or failing or whatever. Why put them in a classroom with 13 and 14 year olds?!?!? As for a 19 year old? Don't even get me started!!
Look here:

NYSED:SSS:S 3202. Public schools free to resident pupils; tuition from nonresident pupils.

You're entitled to attend as long as you are under 21 and have not obtained a HS diploma. Veterans who served and received an honorable discharge can be any age. People over 21 can attend BOCES vocational schools for tuition also.

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A person over five and under twenty-one years of age who has not received a high school diploma is entitled to attend the public schools maintained in the district in which such person resides without the payment of tuition. A veteran of any age who shall have served as a member of the armed forces of the United States and who shall have been discharged therefrom under conditions other than dishonorable, may attend any of the public schools of the state upon conditions prescribed by the board of education, and such veterans shall be included in the pupil count for state aid purposes. A nonveteran under twenty-one years of age who has received a high school diploma shall be permitted to attend classes in the schools of the district in which such person resides or in a school of a board of cooperative educational services upon payment of tuition under such terms and conditions as shall be established in regulations promulgated by the commissioner; provided, however, that a school district may waive the payment of tuition for such nonveteran, but in any case such a nonveteran who has received a high school diploma shall not be counted for any state aid purposes.
While looking, I found some interesting ages. Like this raised age in Texas as of 2009:

Texas Law Extends Age Limit for High Schoolers - KYTX CBS 19 Tyler Longview News Weather Sports

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The state used to provide funding for high school students up age to age 20, or 21 for special education students. But a law, now in effect, allows people up to age 25 to enroll in high school.
Well they talk slow, so maybe they learn slow too, bless their little hearts ... (Just kidding!)
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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Wow!! That's very interesting.

I know I was more than a little annoyed at finding out that there are grown men in a class with my (and other) 14 year olds. So, these cretins can stay there until 21? Wonderful.


Texas is 25??? Crazy!!
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:55 PM
 
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So, these cretins can stay there until 21?
It must be pretty tiring being so critical of everyone all day. How do you keep up?
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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Right you are Buckthedog NYS education Law 3202

New York Education - Part 1 - § 3202 Public Schools Free to Resident Pupils; Tuition From Nonresident Pupils - New York Attorney Resources - New York Laws

Last edited by nuts2uiam; 11-07-2013 at 08:22 PM.. Reason: duplicate
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:25 PM
 
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It must be pretty tiring being so critical of everyone all day. How do you keep up?


I'm not being "critical". There is no reason for 18 and 19 year old MEN to be in a classroom with 13 and 14 year old children (girls).

If they're being left back due to suspensions or expulsions, they should be put in some other type of educational setting, such as night school or online courses at the library (which is right near the school).

If they're being left back due to failing the same courses over and over, they should be put in some other type of educational setting, such as adult special education, in an area away from children.

I think I made this same point in a prior post. Sorry you could only focus on one sentence in a more recent post where I called them "cretins" (which, by the way, is another word used to refer to someone as "unintelligent" so I don't know where you get the "critcal" thing from )

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Old 11-08-2013, 07:45 AM
 
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I said you are being critical because I'm reading a lot of "Ifs" since you have no clue about the situations of these people. I guess it's easier to sit and call people unintelligent and to continue the boring, old stereotype that males are always out to sexually abuse females. I'm sure your 14 year old is the center of their "sexually deviant" universe.

Yes, I do know the situations about these people and why they were left back. Would you like me to publicize their names, ages, addresses, and why they were left back??

Never said ANYTHING about men sexually abusing anyone.

Never said that my 14 year old is the center of anything. Did you REALLY feel a burning need to bring my child into your post???? That's really shameful.
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:20 AM
 
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I'm not being "critical". There is no reason for 18 and 19 year old MEN to be in a classroom with 13 and 14 year old children (girls).

If they're being left back due to suspensions or expulsions, they should be put in some other type of educational setting, such as night school or online courses at the library (which is right near the school).

If they're being left back due to failing the same courses over and over, they should be put in some other type of educational setting, such as adult special education, in an area away from children.

I think I made this same point in a prior post. Sorry you could only focus on one sentence in a more recent post where I called them "cretins" (which, by the way, is another word used to refer to someone as "unintelligent" so I don't know where you get the "critcal" thing from )

Have an amazing night!!!!
Amisi, maybe you can go lobby on behalf of a change to the NY state legislature in Albany. Or maybe you can write a letter. Do you think they will change the law? You have some good ideas.
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:51 AM
 
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Amisi, maybe you can go lobby on behalf of a change to the NY state legislature in Albany. Or maybe you can write a letter. Do you think they will change the law? You have some good ideas.
I'm writing a letter to the school district and will be "cc-ing" the letter to the Department of Education in Albany.

Contrary to what other posters seem to "think", it's not about "sexual deviants" (wherever she got THAT from!) but it's about having ADULTS intermingling with children in a school setting.

There may be only a 4 or 5 year AGE difference, but the maturity level at this age is tremendously different. Keep in mind that 18 and 19 year old ARE adults. As a matter of fact, out of the several that I am aware of, one is covered in tattoos and makes no secret that he will go smoke weed on his lunch break. Do I REALLY want someone like this around my 14 year old? Or my 15 year old? Or even a 13 year old? I don't think so!

I would hope that whoever reads the letter will bring it to the attention of someone who can make some changes. I think that everyone is entitled to an education but I don't think we should have to tolerate adults sitting with children for 7 hours a day!
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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I'm writing a letter to the school district and will be "cc-ing" the letter to the Department of Education in Albany.

Contrary to what other posters seem to "think", it's not about "sexual deviants" (wherever she got THAT from!) but it's about having ADULTS intermingling with children in a school setting.

There may be only a 4 or 5 year AGE difference, but the maturity level at this age is tremendously different. Keep in mind that 18 and 19 year old ARE adults. As a matter of fact, out of the several that I am aware of, one is covered in tattoos and makes no secret that he will go smoke weed on his lunch break. Do I REALLY want someone like this around my 14 year old? Or my 15 year old? Or even a 13 year old? I don't think so!

I would hope that whoever reads the letter will bring it to the attention of someone who can make some changes. I think that everyone is entitled to an education but I don't think we should have to tolerate adults sitting with children for 7 hours a day!
Nice, maybe you can go door to door and amass some signatures for your proposal? I'm sure your neighbors with school aged children would appreciate it.
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