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Of course 66 percent of people would be admitted from home as that is where most of us live.
Hospital admissions are tracked from where the patient comes from: home, nursing facility, or prison.
Sounds like someone intermixed admission data with public transportation and work.
Cuomo, like Trump, has outlived his usefulness with his daily look at me conferences. Time for them all to **** and leave the bean counters to do their job
More dumping on De Blasio, Cuomo (and Trump), today in the New York Times:
"The research indicates that a wave of infections swept from New York City through much of the country before the city began setting social distancing limits to stop the growth. That helped to fuel outbreaks in Louisiana, Texas, Arizona and as far away as the West Coast."
"During crucial weeks in March, New York’s political leaders waited to take aggressive action, even after identifying hundreds of cases, giving the virus a head start. And by mid-March, when President Trump restricted travel from Europe, the restrictions were essentially pointless, the data suggest, as the disease was already spreading widely within the country."
66% of all new cases coming from people staying home. Yeah, this stay at home bs, is really working. Time to get back to living people. Moderator cut: (implied) language removed coumo
Well if there are people visiting their homes then they may as well go out on the street, people aren't using common sense. This virus doesn't somehow magically appear in peoples homes, someone is bringing the virus.
Contact testing can never work in our area, especially in NYC. I work in Manhattan.
Let's say I am asymptomatic and head to work.
1) Get on the LIRR.(I rarely take note of the car number). I sneeze, cough, etc.
2) Get on the subway to get to my office.
Maybe days later I get a fever or my same day my office takes my temp and it high. I then get a test and I am positive. They say let's contact trace. How in the world are they going to find all the people that were on the LIRR and subway with me??? It's impossible. Now those people I infected are also asymptomatic and continue riding the subway. How would it ever end when you can't identify/isolate those people who were exposed.
People on this forum keep forgetting just how interconnected LI and NYC are. The subway is the lifeblood of the city. LIRR is a major player. It is much easier to contact trace if you drive to and from work (as many on this forum probably do).
That is why Gov Cuomo is totally lost on this subject and he finally admitted it yesterday. They have no plan on how to handle the influx of people returning to the subway and spreading the virus. My office in Manhattan can take 1000 precautions but it doesn't matter because almost everyone in the city rides the subway or comes into contact with someone who does. This is not China where they have apps on their phone that allows the govt to track them, etc.
I don't have the answer but that's the major concern in reopening in NYC metro. The numbers are going down because everyone is home, subway ridership is down 93% ....LIRR ridership over 75%......everyone on this forum keeps cheering and saying yay we won, the curve has been flattened...time to reopen the hospitals are empty....yes of course the numbers are looking good as if everyone is home. Unlike public transit in most American cities, high income workers (whose voices/influences count) use the MTA and would be in an uproar if we reopen and its worse than the original round
And no, I don't want to stay home until a vaccine.
NYS is planning on hiring upto 17000 tracers, atleast they are trying to keep the economy going right ?
I do get your point about public transport - its tough, but looks like its happening anyway.
Guys like Cuomo are over-reliant on the eggheads that come up with plans that sound nice but are impossible to implement. Of course places like mass transit make true contact tracing impossible to implement, but also there is tons of non-compliance. We already see certain communities that are hard hit by this - poor minorities, orthodox Jews, etc., and most of them are not "essential employees" out risking their necks. They just can't or won't listen to the rules.
If they are not social distancing and following proper PPE/washing protocol now, why do we think they'd bother responding to contact tracing? Can you imagine trying to do these tests in a place like East New York or the Soundview section of the Bronx?
And then, when it inevitably ends up being a waste of time, we will all get blamed equally. The whole system works in a very passive-aggressive manner, similar to the office manager sending out an office-wide email about cleaning the microwave in the kitchen when she knows it's always Bob that leaves it a mess.
Of course 66 percent of people would be admitted from home as that is where most of us live.
Hospital admissions are tracked from where the patient comes from: home, nursing facility, or prison.
Sounds like someone intermixed admission data with public transportation and work.
Cuomo, like Trump, has outlived his usefulness with his daily look at me conferences. Time for them all to **** and leave the bean counters to do their job
This big ‘bombshell’ was him covering his tracks for not shutting subways in mid-March thereby spreading the virus all over the tri-state area. His disinfecting the subways story was the day before. Follow the story.
Guys like Cuomo are over-reliant on the eggheads that come up with plans that sound nice but are impossible to implement. Of course places like mass transit make true contact tracing impossible to implement, but also there is tons of non-compliance. We already see certain communities that are hard hit by this - poor minorities, orthodox Jews, etc., and most of them are not "essential employees" out risking their necks. They just can't or won't listen to the rules.
If they are not social distancing and following proper PPE/washing protocol now, why do we think they'd bother responding to contact tracing? Can you imagine trying to do these tests in a place like East New York or the Soundview section of the Bronx?
And then, when it inevitably ends up being a waste of time, we will all get blamed equally. The whole system works in a very passive-aggressive manner, similar to the office manager sending out an office-wide email about cleaning the microwave in the kitchen when she knows it's always Bob that leaves it a mess.
They probably also didn't buy cleaning products when they were available and can't get them now.
They may also be driving for Doordash, etc in their local communities, where again - the receivers of the good are not taking precautions to clean the deliveries or wash their hands after getting the items. Not the easiest way to transmit COVID, but it's a trickle down - if the virus is getting onto enough surfaces it will transmit.
Also, as noted these people are much more likely to head to the ER than other groups - whether they really need to or not.
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