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Why not just universal income as our up & coming NYC Mayor Yang is suggesting? Plus thousands for each for COVID relief. I can’t wait until the “Free Healthcare for all” because everyone now has the potential of getting Covid! The government is responsible right? The path to socialized medicine in my opinion!
I love all those countries who get “Free Healthcare”. I believe Switzerland income tax is 45% But they got “Free” healthcare!
You think we don't pay 45% in combined taxes now?! Good luck with that. Difference is we get zip and if we want something, we feel guilty, cause we're brainwashed into subsidizing the rich, cause they're better than us middle class worker bees and we NEED their trickle to keep us warm at night. Total BS. Bahhh bahhh sheep still buying into that lie. It's pathetic. Min wage should be over $24 adjusted for inflation. Corp tax should be over 30%. Top tax rate should be over 50%. That's how you MAGA. That's when America was great. We're the easy marks, kids. Wake up.
Well, define anecdotal versus observational and then cast aspersions in my direction.
I shop in three different Targets on a regular basis; one is closest to my house and the one I visit 3-4 times per week (I prefer just-in-time shopping for our meals), one is where we do our weekly grocery shop (it keeps it's meats section stocked better than the first one) and the last is convenient to a popular outdoor shopping destination where my wife and I frequently wander to window shop and get some fresh air.
All three use a blend of cashier and self-service checkout features. Although there's the illusion that because there are multiple self-service checkout stations, that queue moves faster, my wife prefers using the cashier lines and is often through and bagged in the same or less time than if I'm on the self-service line (we finish at different times frequently, and I'd rather cash out and load the car while she finishes her shopping).
Also, walk into any Costco that offers self-service checkouts and my allegedly anecdotal comment becomes quantifiable as Costco tends to staff each station with a human to expedite the process. So clearly not a scheme to pay fewer people.
So there you have concrete examples observed in person, and multiple times over the past year. Not so anecdotal, and not second hand at all.
“Observational” anecdotal it’s all semantics. You can’t bash “anecdotal” evidence then provide some worthless anecdotal (or observational whatever verbal jujitsu you want to use) evidence yourself about the speed of the lines at your local target or Costco (LOL) sorry, you look ridiculous.
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It's shortsighted. Small businesses that pay more do better, not worse. It's another red herring argument they've been spoon feeding for years. THAT is why Target gets better employees than Walmart and is perceived as a higher end, nicer place to shop. Why Starbucks gets $3 for a cup of coffee and it's "a ripoff" but Dunkin gets $3 for the same cup and "it's a bargain." Perception. Would an owner let their best employee go over a few bucks an hour? If so, better rethink their business model. That employee will walk soon anyway.
Sorry I disagree you know it’s not that simple. Some small businesses will fail or at the very least be forced to layoff employees if the minimum wage is raised too high. I’m not saying some sort of an increase should happen, it’s been far too long. But to go straight to 15 federally no way. It should be up to states to decide as different regions have different living costs.
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Tunnel vision... it's bad. We already have socialized medicine in this country. And I'm not talking just about Medi*** programs that are obviously socialized medicine. Do you pretend that those don't exist?
We could talk about safety net programs, HUD, etc, etc... the list goes on. But, let's stick strictly to medicine because you are focused there. There is a LAW in this country that hospitals cannot deny you treatment for not having insurance coverage, even in cases they KNOW you will not pay for the services you receive. People know this and use the ER as their primary doctor for everything. Guess who pays for those "Free" services, which are guaranteed by law? Shocked that rural hospitals are closing when they don't have any PAYING customers? Shocked that we get charged $63 for an aspirin when those of us who are insured actually do go to the hospital? We are subsidizing the "Free Healthcare" for the poor to use hospitals as their doctors. You either didn't know this or are intentionally being ignorant with your comments.
Healthcare in this country is BROKEN. Your comments about other countries that do not have the same issues as if they have it wrong is just pure tunnel vision where you judge everything by your pocketbook. Sure, countries with socialized medicine tax more, but they are happier and healthier overall. You think that's bad somehow because you get to pretend you have more money than someone in Switzerland. Well, sure do... UNTIL YOU OR YOUR FAMILY GET SICK. Then you are DONE in this country as you go bankrupt with doctor bills. You need to get a clue of the big picture.
I am very aware of the healthcare system rules, laws & regulations. Much more than the average person. Yes, It IS judged by our pocketbooks (maybe not yours) As YOU stated “Get sick & go BK”. Trust me, I pay my share between Co-Pays, premiums, deductibles, RX. Like NEVER before! Unfortunately, I’m not qualified for subsidies.
We already have socialized medicine in this country. And I'm not talking just about Medi*** programs that are obviously socialized medicine. Do you pretend that those don't exist?”
Of COURSE they exist! It’s called Obamacare! It’s called government subsidies, other programs the list goes on. As stated above, unfortunately I don’t qualify. Just another form of redistribution of wealth (Since that didn’t work). Don’t get me wrong, many do need help! Can’t deny one of healthcare.
$63 for an aspirin? I’m not the one with tunnel vision. Do you know what’s involved just to administer an aspirin? The paperwork/notes alone! $63 is a bargain!
Sorry I disagree you know it’s not that simple. Some small businesses will fail or at the very least be forced to layoff employees if the minimum wage is raised too high. I’m not saying some sort of an increase should happen, it’s been far too long. But to go straight to 15 federally no way. It should be up to states to decide as different regions have different living costs.
The states will mess it up again. $15 is dirt. Slave wages. Neither NY or West Virginia can escape poverty on less. SO what's the point? Don't you guys WANT people working and NOT on the dole? Now we're doing BOTH!!! People working AND getting benefits just to sustain poverty level existence. That's why it's shortsighted. Pay people to rise up, not stay the same. That is how to grow GDP and individual wealth. The business will also grow. I understand your point and we argue like real people so it's nice but think about it. We know we haven't kept up. Why is $8hr too low but $15 too high but $11 just right when we KNOW it's been BS underserved for decades?! Can't have it both ways. Fix it or fix it.
You think we don't pay 45% in combined taxes now?! Good luck with that. Difference is we get zip and if we want something, we feel guilty, cause we're brainwashed into subsidizing the rich, cause they're better than us middle class worker bees and we NEED their trickle to keep us warm at night. Total BS. Bahhh bahhh sheep still buying into that lie. It's pathetic. Min wage should be over $24 adjusted for inflation. Corp tax should be over 30%. Top tax rate should be over 50%. That's how you MAGA. That's when America was great. We're the easy marks, kids. Wake up.
Your key word “Combined”. I didn’t mention their sales tax, property tax & the 100’s of other tax systems out there.
Companies can operate just about anywhere in the world. Why do they need to pay 30% in Corp tax in the USA? With remote learning & working from home I think that alone proved it. Same with your 50% top tax rate. Let all them leave & we can all jump on the government plan. Hey, I’m not saying you’re wrong. Unfortunately, that’s the economic system.
I am very aware of the healthcare system rules, laws & regulations. Much more than the average person. Yes, It IS judged by our pocketbooks (maybe not yours) As YOU stated “Get sick & go BK”. Trust me, I pay my share between Co-Pays, premiums, deductibles, RX. Like NEVER before! Unfortunately, I’m not qualified for subsidies.
We already have socialized medicine in this country. And I'm not talking just about Medi*** programs that are obviously socialized medicine. Do you pretend that those don't exist?”
Of COURSE they exist! It’s called Obamacare! It’s called government subsidies, other programs the list goes on. As stated above, unfortunately I don’t qualify. Just another form of redistribution of wealth (Since that didn’t work). Don’t get me wrong, many do need help!
$63 for an aspirin? I’m not the one with tunnel vision. Do you know what’s involved just to administer an aspirin? The paperwork/notes alone! $63 is a bargain!
Additionally, Employers have been subsidizing Healthcare for their Employees for a pretty long time now. Part of the underlying reason for outsourcing to other Countries who have different systems.
They long term effect is either financial set or broke? Unfortunately, that’s our economic system.
The balance between the various & interconnected factors differs from time to time & from place to place. Changes in our systems relative to changing conditions are sometimes necessary.
We have open borders now, so plenty of illegals for business owners to exploit and pay off the books sub-minimal wage.
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