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How do you know they're police officers? It was assumed in this very thread that i'm a police officer, yet i'm not. All based on my opinions. Oh, and don't forget, there's a lot of trolls that pose as others on public message boards.
....and you go to l.i. politics?....lol, troll city.
Yes, that way we avoid thread after thread being put up on this subject and them getting shut down. The mods should delete posts with personal attacks, not lock the whole thread.
It's not the taxpayers responsibility to put guys with High School diplomas in Corvettes an Mercedes.
This topic should come up at every party,backyard barebecue, and social event. I've had to defend my wifes profession for years, now these arrogant SCPD cops should have to defend themselves.
Watch out, though, you say something to them and you might have somebody waiting to pull you over when you leave for work in the morning. You think they won't? Don't underestimate the arrogance and vindictiveness of some cops.
I'm thinking of filing an IA complaint against one cop...an ex of my wifes friend...who got an entire event catered for free because he patrols the area the catering hall was in...like they aren't making enough coin already, they need to save $1,000 on catering.
I'm thinking of filing an IA complaint against one cop...an ex of my wifes friend...who got an entire event catered for free because he patrols the area the catering hall was in...like they aren't making enough coin already, they need to save $1,000 on catering.
Please do it... you owe it to yourself and the rest of us taxpayers to report this dirtbag... stories like this drive me crazy.
Very good discussion in this thread, and cheers for Steve Levy!
I think anyone who isn't a police officer or relative of one can agree, something needs to be done about the extremely disproportionate compensation we taxpayers are funding for these two departments. For most people on LI, the Police portion of your property tax bill is going to be the single largest sum outside of school taxes. Likely more than double anything else....it's completely out of whack.
What would the result of the county execs just telling the unions to shove it, ending negotiations entirely and putting nothing but a "take it or leave it" offer on the table? Does anyone really think any SCPD/NCPD employee is going to quit with even half their salary and half their benefits still intact? Even if they do, there would still be tens of thousands of people willing to take those vacancies. Help Wanted section in Newsday is down to less than a full page, these are rough times. Try finding work with nothing but a high school diploma in the private sector.... you'd be lucky to pull fifteen bucks an hour and limited health coverage...and that's only if you have tons of experience and interview/bs really well.
Look at the world around us, a lot of families are really struggling. I think it's beyond disgraceful that we should be talking about putting more money into these departments while the people funding them are losing the shirts off their backs. I think it's a pretty good indication of how concerned these two police forces are with protecting and serving anything but their own self interests.
The police have binding arbitration. So if their negotiations between the union and the county are at an impasse, an arbitrator is called in to decide the contract. Whatever the arbitrator decides to award as a contract becomes the contract.
The police have binding arbitration. So if their negotiations between the union and the county are at an impasse, an arbitrator is called in to decide the contract. Whatever the arbitrator decides to award as a contract becomes the contract.
The Taylor law is ridiculous and must be abolished... the combination of the taylor law and a corrupt county executive looking for votes (gulotta) lead to this problem. The county executive is gone but the taylor law is still there
The Taylor law is ridiculous and must be abolished... the combination of the taylor law and a corrupt county executive looking for votes (gulotta) lead to this problem. The county executive is gone but the taylor law is still there
I can't see how any arbitrator can continue to justify paying MBA level salaries with even better benefits,for a position that has tens of thousands of applicants with no higher education. It just doesn't make sense anymore..it never did, but in this economy, it would be a crime to allow this to go on.
What gets me even more is that some of these guys..mostly very working class in disposition..take on the mentality of Republican corporate types..one guy on LI politics was bragging about how he's traveled all over the world, stayed in the most expensive hotels, and how he thinks that he pays too much in taxes to support teachers salaries. The hubris ..and irony..is unmatched.
I can't see how any arbitrator can continue to justify paying MBA level salaries with even better benefits,for a position that has tens of thousands of applicants with no higher education. It just doesn't make sense anymore..it never did, but in this economy, it would be a crime to allow this to go on.
What gets me even more is that some of these guys..mostly very working class in disposition..take on the mentality of Republican corporate types..one guy on LI politics was bragging about how he's traveled all over the world, stayed in the most expensive hotels, and how he thinks that he pays too much in taxes to support teachers salaries. The hubris ..and irony..is unmatched.
There's a paragraph in the Taylor Law that states that the arbitrator must look to neighboring counties to determine appropriate compensation. When Gulotta started giving the Nassau PBA the giant raises... the Suffolk PBA was able to win the large awards in arbritration. When Suffolk won a large award, Nassau would go to arbritration and win a larger award.
The cycle continued because Nassau and Suffolk competed with eachother and it spiralled into the current mess of the 150k a year cop with an uber amount of time off and a free pension and medical insurance.
There's a paragraph in the Taylor Law that states that the arbitrator must look to neighboring counties to determine appropriate compensation. When Gulotta started giving the Nassau PBA the giant raises... the Suffolk PBA was able to win the large awards in arbritration. When Suffolk won a large award, Nassau would go to arbritration and win a larger award.
The cycle continued because Nassau and Suffolk competed with eachother and it spiralled into the current mess of the 150k a year cop with an uber amount of time off and a free pension and medical insurance.
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There's a paragraph in the Taylor Law that states that the arbitrator must look to neighboring counties to determine appropriate compensation. When Gulotta started giving the Nassau PBA the giant raises... the Suffolk PBA was able to win the large awards in arbritration. When Suffolk won a large award, Nassau would go to arbritration and win a larger award.
The cycle continued because Nassau and Suffolk competed with eachother and it spiralled into the current mess of the 150k a year cop with an uber amount of time off and a free pension and medical insurance.
Well then howcome the Nassau County Sheriff's Department has a much higher grossing pay scale then the Suffolk County Sheriff's Office?
Nassau County deputies make like $20,000 more then Suffolk County deputies. Of course there's only about 70 Nassau Sheriff's deputies as opposed to about 300 in Suffolk.
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The hubris ..and irony..is unmatched.
