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I know someone who came here to visit in Suffolk County for Thanksgiving from Florida.
He went to run an errand for a friend in his friend's car.
SCPD officer hanging out near a stop sign pulls him over because "the music was too loud." (Meanwhile it's a stock stereo so how loud could it be?)
Then officer sees that the inspection sticker on the car is expired.
He proceeds to give a ticket for this in the guy from Florida's name instead of in the registered owner's name (available on the registration which was in the glove compartment). (The office also DOES NOT give a ticket for "loud music" which was the original reason he made the stop.)
I thought things like expired inspection are ticketable under the REGISTERED OWNER'S NAME, not just whoever is driving the car.
It is a $160 ticket. The person from Florida is not going to be coming back and forth to go to court in Suffolk.
Is this just a bogus ticket because the officer knows the person from Florida will probably just pay it (especially since FL and NY cooperate, so if he doesn't pay it, it WILL go on his license)?
Have you ever heard of someone getting a ticket for an expired inspection sticker when it is not THEIR car?
Do you think he should try and fight it or just pay it?
I know someone who came here to visit in Suffolk County for Thanksgiving from Florida.
He went to run an errand for a friend in his friend's car.
SCPD officer hanging out near a stop sign pulls him over because "the music was too loud." (Meanwhile it's a stock stereo so how loud could it be?)
Then officer sees that the inspection sticker on the car is expired.
He proceeds to give a ticket for this in the guy from Florida's name instead of in the registered owner's name (available on the registration which was in the glove compartment). (The office also DOES NOT give a ticket for "loud music" which was the original reason he made the stop.)
I thought things like expired inspection are ticketable under the REGISTERED OWNER'S NAME, not just whoever is driving the car.
It is a $160 ticket. The person from Florida is not going to be coming back and forth to go to court in Suffolk.
Is this just a bogus ticket because the officer knows the person from Florida will probably just pay it (especially since FL and NY cooperate, so if he doesn't pay it, it WILL go on his license)?
Have you ever heard of someone getting a ticket for an expired inspection sticker when it is not THEIR car?
Do you think he should try and fight it or just pay it?
Thanks all for any ideas you may have!
If the car is parked, the summons would be issued to the registered owner via the plate. The only "moving" violation that is given to the registered owner is those bogus red light camera violations because they can't prove who was actually driving the car at the time of the violation. If your driving any auto it's the driver's responsibility and will receive the summons. You can fight any summons but this is pretty straight forward and ignorance or not knowing plea(no defense) wouldn't work. I'm not sure of Suffolks fines but 160 usually means that the inspection expired more than 60 days in most jurisdictions. Yes if it goes un-paid it will go on his license. THE RIGHT thing do here is the GUY who owns the car should step up and pay the fine.
if the music was loud enough to draw the officers attention then he has the right to pull him or her over. there is a law against how loud your music is in your car but since he couldnt prove the decible level, your friend got off with an expired inspection ticket instead.
If the car is parked, the summons would be issued to the registered owner via the plate. The only "moving" violation that is given to the registered owner is those bogus red light camera violations because they can't prove who was actually driving the car at the time of the violation. If your driving any auto it's the driver's responsibility and will receive the summons. You can fight any summons but this is pretty straight forward and ignorance or not knowing plea(no defense) wouldn't work. I'm not sure of Suffolks fines but 160 usually means that the inspection expired more than 60 days in most jurisdictions. Yes if it goes un-paid it will go on his license. THE RIGHT thing do here is the GUY who owns the car should step up and pay the fine.
Exactly. This isn't a bogus ticket, it's just hitting the wrong party in an ethical sense. Instead of using the excuse that it wasn't the car of the guy who was driving, the owner should pay the ticket, as it is apparently legitimate.
if the music was loud enough to draw the officers attention then he has the right to pull him or her over. there is a law against how loud your music is in your car but since he couldnt prove the decible level, your friend got off with an expired inspection ticket instead.
Actually, this isn't a ticket that's handed out enough. All the jerks who pull into gas stations and 7 elevens and turn their radios UP and roll down the windows...what rude nonsense. I actually saw an SCPD cop give some little teenage snot heat about it in a 7 eleven..told her to go back outside and turn off her radio or get a ticket. It was great, but I'd rather she just have given her the ticket. Little brats.
Exactly. This isn't a bogus ticket, it's just hitting the wrong party in an ethical sense. Instead of using the excuse that it wasn't the car of the guy who was driving, the owner should pay the ticket, as it is apparently legitimate.
believe it or not, if you take the owner to small claims court, you could win.
If you're driving someone else's car, it's up to you to make sure it's legal. The inspection sticker is right there on the windshield.
Just like commercial truck drivers who, if the inspection is not current, get a ticket.
As for the "just cause" of the original traffic stop, loud music is a valid reason. Maybe it was used as an excuse to "check out" the out-of-state driver, or the local resident who registers their car in Florida to avoid high insurance rates, or a host of other reasons. Matter of fact, that might have been a big reason for the cop to do what he did. An out-of-state registration is hard to inspect regularly
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