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Old 08-18-2007, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Okay, I'm such a dork. I tried what you said, I clicked on the yellow mountain thingy and it said enter url of your image and the thing said http://. (broken link) So I went and found a phot I wanted to post, I right clicked on it went to properties and then highlighted the url. I then went back to the yellow box and pasted but all I got was my previous post, nothing. I don't know how to post a feakin' picture. UGH!!!!
Get rid of the http:// before you paste your link. Try again.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:07 PM
 
Location: manhattan
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It is simply the best place in the united states to live, hands down. It's not even debatable - if money were no object everybody would be living in SoCal

Unfortunately many people (females) make a silly mistake like getting pregnant multiple times from their husbands - who just so happen to be 37 years old and stuck in a dead end managerial position

OH WOE IS ME I cant seem to survive on 60k a year from my husband being a manager at Home Depot, and I can't work because I have to take care of the kids, and pay for private schooling cus LAUSD SUCKS!


Well, maybe in the next life you'll be smart enough to not have kids (there's 6 billion++ on the planet already, we don't need more) and also to be a little more ambitious.

I heard housing in South Africa is really cheap - check it out
OMG dear, who misinformed you?

Everybody would move to L.A. if they could afford it? You see, as a kid growing up in the fabulous suburbs of Brentwood, (L.A. for all you outsiders) I used to be so misinformed, uncultured and ignorant as you. I thought L.A. was the absolute height of living until I was exposed to chicer cities like Paris and New York.

But in regards to your outrageous claim, you are so wrong. In reality you couldn't pay most people to live in L.A., as a matter of fact, most of my mother's in real estate, and her extreme wealthy international clients almost always choose New York over L.A.

Oh and trust me sweetie, there are much more rich people in New York City/Connecticut area than in SoCal.

So why hasn't the truy wealthy (Not the fake rich like in L.A.) In New York (the city with the greatest number of billioniares by far), Connecticut (old-money mecca), The Hamptons (Most expensive real estate in the U.S.), South Forida (Fabulous summer homes for the above) boarded up their homes and ran to L.A., your sef-procaimed utopia? After all they have money right?

You are so silly.
L.A. is awesome, but please don't overrate L.A./SoCal. There is no point in the original poster staying in SoCal when she can live a much better life elsewhere. I don't understand why she's being attacked.
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Old 08-19-2007, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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I absolutely love NYC and Paris but I can't live in either, that's why travel is a wonderful thing. I fit easily into NYC life as I love an urban environment but there are several reasons why I won't live there. To me, L.A. is the height of living. I've done plenty of research. I'm due for a NYC trip too. I haven't had a good Knish in ages. The window is small, it's either too hot or too cold most of the year.
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:41 PM
 
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This thread is of great interest to me. I am in my early 40's, married, no kids. My husband and I live in Chicago in a condo. We have been to Socal 3 times and being from the flat oceanless Midwest, are in love with the hills, mountains, valleys and beaches that California offers. We love Chicago, but it's a major city in the middle of nowhere and have 3-4 viable months to do anything outdoors. However, it's very diverse and has fantastic cultural options and that is important to us. So what that, we're seriously considering moving to CA. I would not consider moving anywhere that's not on the coast and have no interest in Oregon or WA state. We've considered Florida, but Miami is the only city there we like. Our needs are being able to go outside more, more natural beauty, jobs, and a condo with 2 parking spaces and easy access to entertainment and healthcare. We both commute 1 hour to work now so a similar commute is fine. We just don't know if at this point in our lives, if this move is a viable thing to do. Economincally, we want to maitain our middle class lifestyle but don't have to worry about college funds, etc. Are professional jobs plentiful? If we could make more money and find a 1000 sq ft condo within 15 miles from the beach, I think we'd be content. Any thoughts?
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:07 AM
 
Location: manhattan
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I absolutely love NYC and Paris but I can't live in either, that's why travel is a wonderful thing. I fit easily into NYC life as I love an urban environment but there are several reasons why I won't live there. To me, L.A. is the height of living. I've done plenty of research. I'm due for a NYC trip too. I haven't had a good Knish in ages. The window is small, it's either too hot or too cold most of the year.
I actually love L.A., it's my home. And its sad how negative this forum is.

But at the same time I just want to be real and say that everybody doesn't want to live in L.A., or New York for that matter. Even if they had the means. As fabulous as they both are, neither are perfect. There is no need to stretch yourself thin to afford NY or LA prices.

If moving to Tennessee is what makes the poster happy then so be it! Personally, I couldn't live anywhere else in the U.S. other than New York or LA. But we all have different tastes.
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:48 AM
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OMG dear, who misinformed you?

Everybody would move to L.A. if they could afford it? You see, as a kid growing up in the fabulous suburbs of Brentwood, (L.A. for all you outsiders) I used to be so misinformed, uncultured and ignorant as you. I thought L.A. was the absolute height of living until I was exposed to chicer cities like Paris and New York.

But in regards to your outrageous claim, you are so wrong. In reality you couldn't pay most people to live in L.A., as a matter of fact, most of my mother's in real estate, and her extreme wealthy international clients almost always choose New York over L.A.

Oh and trust me sweetie, there are much more rich people in New York City/Connecticut area than in SoCal.

So why hasn't the truy wealthy (Not the fake rich like in L.A.) In New York (the city with the greatest number of billioniares by far), Connecticut (old-money mecca), The Hamptons (Most expensive real estate in the U.S.), South Forida (Fabulous summer homes for the above) boarded up their homes and ran to L.A., your sef-procaimed utopia? After all they have money right?

You are so silly.
L.A. is awesome, but please don't overrate L.A./SoCal. There is no point in the original poster staying in SoCal when she can live a much better life elsewhere. I don't understand why she's being attacked.
Are you the magazine editor on the Devil Wears Prada???

I do agree with you...it is extremely annoying when Californians claim LA/OC is "utopia" when most of them never truly experienced other big cities such as Paris and NYC. LA doesn't even feel like a big city like Manhattan with everything being so spread apart...it isn't even comparable. Have it not been for the winter weather, I would choose NYC over LA any day. As far as buying a home in either, they are both expensive for the first-time homebuyer such as myself (and unfortunately not a trust fund kid) without sacrificing location and size. It's all relative on a low six figure income. On the other hand, if I had all the money in the world I would buy vacation property in the big cities - a mansion in Malibu, a penthouse in Manhattan, a mansion on Star Island in Miami with a speed yacht but I would LIVE in an oceanfront mansion in Lanikai and have Corona moments in my hammock everyday with a seascape of clear blue water and the Mokulua islands

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Old 08-21-2007, 06:48 PM
 
Location: West LA
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OMG dear, who misinformed you?

Everybody would move to L.A. if they could afford it? You see, as a kid growing up in the fabulous suburbs of Brentwood, (L.A. for all you outsiders) I used to be so misinformed, uncultured and ignorant as you. I thought L.A. was the absolute height of living until I was exposed to chicer cities like Paris and New York.

But in regards to your outrageous claim, you are so wrong. In reality you couldn't pay most people to live in L.A., as a matter of fact, most of my mother's in real estate, and her extreme wealthy international clients almost always choose New York over L.A.

Oh and trust me sweetie, there are much more rich people in New York City/Connecticut area than in SoCal.

So why hasn't the truy wealthy (Not the fake rich like in L.A.) In New York (the city with the greatest number of billioniares by far), Connecticut (old-money mecca), The Hamptons (Most expensive real estate in the U.S.), South Forida (Fabulous summer homes for the above) boarded up their homes and ran to L.A., your sef-procaimed utopia? After all they have money right?

You are so silly.
L.A. is awesome, but please don't overrate L.A./SoCal. There is no point in the original poster staying in SoCal when she can live a much better life elsewhere. I don't understand why she's being attacked.
OMG dear sweetie sugar-lump varicose vein,

The point of all the backlash negativity is "...don't let the door hit you in the @s$!"

Toodles ciao que bella [NOT!] and chihuahua puppies!

Jack


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CLQ: Devil Wears Prada LMAO Awesome!!! I'd rather be shot in the face than live in new york. hahaha
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:09 PM
 
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I actually love L.A., it's my home. And its sad how negative this forum is.

But at the same time I just want to be real and say that everybody doesn't want to live in L.A., or New York for that matter. Even if they had the means. As fabulous as they both are, neither are perfect. There is no need to stretch yourself thin to afford NY or LA prices.

If moving to Tennessee is what makes the poster happy then so be it! Personally, I couldn't live anywhere else in the U.S. other than New York or LA. But we all have different tastes.
There are some really valid points here. No matter how you or I or the man in the moon might like a certain place, there is never going to be a single authority to say, "Yes, THIS place is perfect for everyone."

People really do need to know the pitfalls as well as the plus side when it comes to relocating (from anywhere to anywhere...obviously this is not exclusive to Los Angeles). It's pretty much a damned-if-you-do sort of situation because if you post negative things about the area, people jump all over you about how incredibly negative you are, and that it's so untrue, the place is actually fabulous, wonderful, that the negative person is exaggerating, etc. Yet...if the person listens to that, and he or she makes the move, and then complains about the realities, he or she is told, "You should have known all this before you moved. Tough, then. Leave."

I hear a lot of grumbling from people that newcomers "should have known what they were getting into" and that they shouldn't complain. Well, then...let them hear the realities. All of them. The good and the prohibitive. Then maybe they won't move in the first place. And then everybody would be happier...right?

"Just" leaving isn't very easy. Anyone who has ever relocated knows this. And that's why it's better for a person to know all about the place before making a decision. Obviously it's going to hurt people who love a place to hear the negatives. But it seems to hurt these people just as much to hear about people who move to L.A. and regret it, so which would you rather? Isn't it better for people to know in advance and just not move to this place you, personally love? Wouldn't that make it a more pleasant environment for you, not to have to be surrounded by transplants who went on the whole "it's so fabulous out here" thing and now are unhappy? Nobody wants to be surrounded by unhappy people, or grumblers, etc.

As the above poster basically said, there isn't any one Shangri-La that will work for absolutely every person. It isn't a slam on L.A. that people see negatives...it isn't even a slam that they get incredibly frustrated. Even L.A. natives get incredibly frustrated with certain issues...but for them the positives outweigh the negatives. Someone really not liking the area, or something about it--for example, the prohibitive cost of homes--is not anything personal. It just is. In this county as compared to many other parts of the state and much of the rest of the country, housing prices are indeed incredibly high, especially as a ratio to income. That's just a fact.

Yet look at what this has degenerated to...yet another thread heading for a close-down, and now the exaggerations begin, from both sides: L.A. is paradise, and every person on earth would kill or die to be here; L.A. is an incredible garbage dump and a life of hell and misery slaving to your 2-hour-commute job to support a million-dollar house. I'm not actually seeing how this is helpful... but just wanted to say I second the post I quoted above; it makes a lot of sense.
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:41 PM
 
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JerZ have you fulfilled your 3 year long dream of living dreaded CA yet?
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:47 PM
 
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JerZ have you fulfilled your 3 year long dream of living dreaded CA yet?
If you'd like to ask me that question, you might do the sensible thing and PM me, since it's entirely off-topic to this post.

But please do feel free to PM me and we can discuss it.

(p.s. I'm assuming you meant "leaving". How long have you lived in L.A.? You could be offering some solid advice rather than doing what you're doing here.)

Last edited by JerZ; 08-21-2007 at 08:07 PM.. Reason: took out some more pointed stuff better served via PM
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