06-25-2013, 01:42 AM
Location: Los Angeles
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I also think it's what I call "cool kid envy". In high school anybody that wasn't seen as cool, at some point wanted to be, even if they wouldn't admit it. Some tried hard and weren't, others thought they were but weren't really. But those kids always hated the cool kids. They talked about them, hated everything that they stood for--all based on perception. I remember this chubby kid in class having the biggest attitude with me for no reason and I could never put my finger on it until later it hit me, he thinks I'm cool or that I think I'm cool and just hates me. LA and California in general, is a bunch of cool kids. Give people a chance and they'll move out here if they could but since they can't, they just hate on it. Don't get me wrong there are some annoying things about Californians that rightfully deserve frowns but still, most people don't even know that, you'd have to live here to really know those things and since they don't, it's just conjecture.
06-25-2013, 08:33 AM
Location: Eastchester, Bronx, NY
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Hollywood is the main reason. Many in the Midwest believe LA residents have their noses up in the air. And they believe they drive everywhere, even half a block (actually some do that almost anywhere in the USA), unaware LA even has a subway.
To be fair, there are LA residents that are unaware LA has a subway.
06-25-2013, 12:43 PM
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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I think a lot of it is based on some kind of belief that the values/culture of those in L.A is so much different from theirs. The media and reality tv shows really don't help. From the outside L.A could be viewed as a very superficial place.
They see the realhousewives of Beverly Hills,etc , but they don't see the working class mothers of the nonupscale areas because these types of 'normal people' aren't glamorous. So they view L.A being either filled with rich people or gangbangers (which might not actually be too far from the truth the way things are going with the middle class disappearing!) .
On the other hand I think that those in L.A have a lot of stereotypes about all the places between L.A and NYC , there seems to be an attitude among those in L.A that all the other cities are lesser places for lesser people with nothing going on. Even those in big cities can be pretty ignorant too.
06-25-2013, 06:15 PM
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Envy and jealousy from watching too much TV. That's what you do in the midwest and east coast from October until March; You sit inside and watch people in LA roller blading on the strand in February in short pants in 72F weather.
Envy and Jealousy, and not because of the weather per se. Its Los Angeles, and LA has Hollywood. The same people that hate on LA would hate on NY as well. Both are major cities that have lots of rich people. Not that both cities don't have poverty, but living in a major international city is in the minds of a lot of people out of their reach. Its something they would LIKE to do, but can't do it because of FEAR or perceived lack of opportunity.
06-25-2013, 06:17 PM
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I also think it's what I call "cool kid envy". In high school anybody that wasn't seen as cool, at some point wanted to be, even if they wouldn't admit it. Some tried hard and weren't, others thought they were but weren't really. But those kids always hated the cool kids. They talked about them, hated everything that they stood for--all based on perception. I remember this chubby kid in class having the biggest attitude with me for no reason and I could never put my finger on it until later it hit me, he thinks I'm cool or that I think I'm cool and just hates me. LA and California in general, is a bunch of cool kids. Give people a chance and they'll move out here if they could but since they can't, they just hate on it. Don't get me wrong there are some annoying things about Californians that rightfully deserve frowns but still, most people don't even know that, you'd have to live here to really know those things and since they don't, it's just conjecture.
BINGO. California itself is still the nation's biggest ecomony (if Cali were its own country it would be 7th biggest in the world). You have Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Boeing/Aerospace, excellent universities, etc. So in other words, its popular to HATE on not just LA but the state itself. Ny gets some of that from the same crowd, though.
06-25-2013, 07:03 PM
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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I also think it's what I call "cool kid envy". In high school anybody that wasn't seen as cool, at some point wanted to be, even if they wouldn't admit it. Some tried hard and weren't, others thought they were but weren't really. But those kids always hated the cool kids. They talked about them, hated everything that they stood for--all based on perception. I remember this chubby kid in class having the biggest attitude with me for no reason and I could never put my finger on it until later it hit me, he thinks I'm cool or that I think I'm cool and just hates me. LA and California in general, is a bunch of cool kids. Give people a chance and they'll move out here if they could but since they can't, they just hate on it. Don't get me wrong there are some annoying things about Californians that rightfully deserve frowns but still, most people don't even know that, you'd have to live here to really know those things and since they don't, it's just conjecture.
+1 Good post. I'm from the East Coast (DC area, born & raised) and I don't hate California, hell if anything, I would love to visit the place one day! Starting with the San Francisco Bay Area though
But I would love to visit L.A. too, I just don't know where to start lol I'm sure I'll love Cali and the California State of Mind...especially since I'm kind of a mellow, laid-back yet calm-minded person in nature.
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06-25-2013, 07:42 PM
Location: San Antonio Texas
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What did LA ever do to people in the Mid-West and South to make some of them hate us so much? I spend a lot of time staying current on news of all types. When the articles involve LA or California, I frequently run into reader comments that exasperate an irrational hatred of LA? Typically the readers are from the Mid West or South. They're comments are so horrible. Like, wishing that all of LA will soon to fall into the ocean?
What's up with that? I've never read a reader comment in an article, in which someone from LA wishes that people in Wisconsin will soon all die from a tornado? Seriously, I love LA so much and I don't why some folks in this country have to hate on this city so much? Oh, it also seems like there's a lot of LA haters in Texas and Nevada?
since I'm from that part of the country, I honestly believe that it's the Hollywood image of California that people dislike about California. Also, it's the fact that ultra-rich Californians have invaded our cities, paid cash for the most beautiful homes and in the process have made housing very expensive in desirable cities like Austin. As a very large state with big political muscle, it also ensured that Obama won the Presidency. That couldn't help too much in a state like Texas.
06-25-2013, 09:17 PM
Location: ATL
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It isn't hate. I don't think most people care. If I asked someone if they wanted to eat a doo doo sandwich most people would say ewww. That's doesn't mean they hate doo doo sandwiches it just means that they think it is nasty and wouldn't recommend it. Get it? I'm not comparing LA to doo doo because I like LA but I was just making a point. If someone from LA said they were moving to Baghdad and nobody recommended it it doesn't mean that they hate Baghdad it just means that they were giving their opinion. Some people need to learn the difference between hate and giving an honest opinion.
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06-25-2013, 09:51 PM
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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Heck, there are people in San Francisco and even San Diego that "hate on" L.A. Some of that is the sports rivalries, but it is usually more than that. I think in the Midwest (I grew up there my first 12 years), it is not so much directed toward LA specifically as the "cities on the East and West coasts" needing to be more respectful and not consider it all flyover territory.
I can't speak for the attitude toward LA in the South. I have only been to Florida on vacation (20 years ago) and do not know anyone there.
So I guess I am wrong about Sacramentans being the Champion L.A. Haters. According to them, everything bad about the city is because of all the black gang bangers from L.A. and Oakland who absconded from the law and took refuge here, infesting and corrupting the tranquil cowtown during the late 1980's and 90's. But even still, we have no smog crime or traffic here, like that dastardly Los Angeles. Lol
06-25-2013, 09:56 PM
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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OP I know your life is miserable, but how many more anti-midwest/chicago/south/west/not-LA trolling rants do you need to make? You had a sucky life in Chicago. We get it. Your very angry about it. We see that. LA awesome, everywhere else lame. Again, we hear ya. Now, can you go find a new hobby or something?
Hmm... I must be miserable too since I missed what is so annoying about the OP's post. Oh, I forgot. I'm from L.A. too!
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People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)