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Old 01-11-2016, 10:09 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Yeah, I've noticed that too. Nice, well maintained housing stock in many parts of South LA, commercial Blvd.'s could use some sprucing up, etc.

Jefferson Park is really nice and they are adjacent to the Expo Line as well. And I agree that the ongoing improvements to USC (including Univ. Village) will bode well for areas surrounding campus such as West Adams.

Yeah it was weird...I drove past some neighborhoods that could pass for some westside neighborhoods.

Its sad because some neighborhoods, even in the best parts of South LA, get overlooked for historical reasons. Like, Ladera Heights could obviously support a Trader Joes, but beacuase of skin pigimitation we are presposed to writing off particular neighborhoods. Parts of Mid City remind of this too. Super nice houses--designed by the most famous architects and have wealthy families but will not get play becuase of the reputation of the neighborhood. Sad, but I think it can change and I am optimistic.
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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City West Downtown

East Hollywood and Santa Monica Blvd in Hollywood

Pico BTW Robertson and La Brea

Venice BLVD in Mar Vista and Palms

Lincoln Blvd in Venice

Santa Monica Blvd in West LA

Downtown Van Nuys
East Hollywood.

The areas in Venice or nearby won't undergo further gentrification. Venice is too far from everything, and it does not have train service (new train going to Santa Monica). I'm in Los Angeles this week, and I notice the areas with gentrification tend to be CENTRAL locations with close access to major employers. These areas get entertainment options opening up like restaurants, bars, etc. And of course new major retail.

The only beach cities with major employment are Santa Monica and Culver City. There's really nothing in Venice, Marina, or Playa del Rey. Venice has a lot of beautiful single family homes (ditto Mar Vista) so they will never allow the area to get rezoned for major development.
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:25 AM
 
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East Hollywood.

The areas in Venice or nearby won't undergo further gentrification. Venice is too far from everything, and it does not have train service (new train going to Santa Monica). I'm in Los Angeles this week, and I notice the areas with gentrification tend to be CENTRAL locations with close access to major employers. These areas get entertainment options opening up like restaurants, bars, etc. And of course new major retail.

The only beach cities with major employment are Santa Monica and Culver City. There's really nothing in Venice, Marina, or Playa del Rey. Venice has a lot of beautiful single family homes (ditto Mar Vista) so they will never allow the area to get rezoned for major development.
Not sure where you got your information, but it's about 10 years outdated. Santa Monica is losing employment left and right to Playa del Rey and Marina del Rey. Westchester and Mar Vista's home values are one of the hottest residential real estate spots now. Twitter, Snapchat and Google all opened up offices in Venice within the past 5 years.

No matter what hollywood, downtown, or other areas gentrify, people will always want to live near the beach.
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:50 AM
 
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Not sure where you got your information, but it's about 10 years outdated. Santa Monica is losing employment left and right to Playa del Rey and Marina del Rey. Westchester and Mar Vista's home values are one of the hottest residential real estate spots now. Twitter, Snapchat and Google all opened up offices in Venice within the past 5 years.

No matter what hollywood, downtown, or other areas gentrify, people will always want to live near the beach.
Probably from when I lived in 10 years ago (I go back and forth between NYC and LA).

Those offices in Venice do not compare to the office space you have for tech and other sorts of companies in other parts of LA, particularly central LA.

Venice is too far away from everything. Suppose you don't work at those Google and Twitter offices. You're going to have to go pretty far from work.

I know people have biases towards their favorite parts of town, but the massive real estate development of the interior parts of LA simply isn't happening in the beach cities.

New clubs and restaurants open downtown a lot more than they do in the beach. Hollywood and Weho have a lot more fun stuff.

Of course there will always be retirees, vacationers, people who want a second beachfront home, etc coming to the beach cities but are they the hottest part of LA? No.

And Santa Monica and Culver City at least have train lines. Real estate development takes off big where you have lots of public transportation. Look at downtown. Venice doesn't have that either.
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:28 PM
 
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East Hollywood.

The areas in Venice or nearby won't undergo further gentrification. Venice is too far from everything, and it does not have train service (new train going to Santa Monica). I'm in Los Angeles this week, and I notice the areas with gentrification tend to be CENTRAL locations with close access to major employers. These areas get entertainment options opening up like restaurants, bars, etc. And of course new major retail.
I agree. What I posted earlier in this thread:

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My very simplified rules for LA-style gentrification:

The area has to be relatively affordable and:
  • Be urban in some way and/or
  • Have access to Metro Rail (not Metrolink)
With that in mind, I would say Lincoln Heights, Boyle Heights/ELA, Chinatown, East Hollywood, and Leimert Park are next on the gentrification list.
This is why I think areas like Tujunga, Pacoima, La Puente, and Montebello won't be hipster-gentrified anytime soon.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA (Ladera Heights)
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Yeah it was weird...I drove past some neighborhoods that could pass for some westside neighborhoods.

Its sad because some neighborhoods, even in the best parts of South LA, get overlooked for historical reasons. Like, Ladera Heights could obviously support a Trader Joes, but beacuase of skin pigimitation we are presposed to writing off particular neighborhoods. Parts of Mid City remind of this too. Super nice houses--designed by the most famous architects and have wealthy families but will not get play becuase of the reputation of the neighborhood. Sad, but I think it can change and I am optimistic.
you consider Ladera Heights to be South LA??? (maybe i read that wrong)

ive lived here all my life and have never heard that. Now I have heard Baldwin Hills/View Park being lumped into the huge South LA neighorhood, but never Ladera...

in fact the LA times designates Ladera Heights as "westside" neighborhood given the geographics.

Ladera Heights Profile - Mapping L.A. - Los Angeles Times

*UNLESS*

you are referring to the part of ladera (that many long time residents call old Ladera) that is EAST of la cienga (some of that is now called La tijera Village) BUT the ladera heights community that is WEST of la cienga is certainly not referred to as South LA....(and tbh even denoted old ladera as South is pushing it)....

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Old 03-18-2016, 09:52 PM
 
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Rents Already Soaring Along LA's Unopened Expo Line - Curbed LA
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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Mcarthur park will be one of the nicest neighborhoods in LA within 10-15 years. Downtown can't go east an and k town is knocking on the west. Done deal.

Also agree with east Hollywood.
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Old 03-19-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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East Hollywood.

The only beach cities with major employment are Santa Monica and Culver City. t.
Oh, yes, some of my favorite beaches are in culver city...lol...
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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The only beach cities with major employment are Santa Monica and Culver City. There's really nothing in Venice, Marina, or Playa del Rey. Venice has a lot of beautiful single family homes (ditto Mar Vista) so they will never allow the area to get rezoned for major development.
You are very incorrect. The job growth from LAX north is what has caused rents from Torrance/Gardena to North Ridge and sales prices in places like Inglewood to skyrocket. Tons of tech companies in Playa Vista, MDR, and Venice, hence the term "Silicon Beach".
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