‘It just doesn’t feel safe’: Residents demand cleanup of Orange Line bike path (unemployment rate, cost)

[Finper]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Are you offering an excuse as to why it's futile to try to do anything about it? If it's a county issue you go to the county board of supervisors. If it's not LAPD's jurisdiction then it belongs to the Sheriff's Dept. Seriously, you are making it more complicated than it is. Here's a way to get started. Join https://nextdoor.com/ It's free and easy to use, there's even a way to invite your neighbors to join. Bring it up on the board, get other people involved and get 'er done

your making this a lot easier then reality... Take a road trip out of 5000 homeless Sacramento and see what 57000 plus plus plus homeless is like here. You think I'm the only one complaining and trying to fix this? Moorlach our Senator is pulling his hair out he's so frustrated. They opened a big homeless shelter recently but it's practically empty because they don't want to give up there life style there. I wish I could post pics on this forum it would probably shock you and no amount of "meetings" is fixing this.

[elhelmete]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Are you offering an excuse as to why it's futile to try to do anything about it? If it's a county issue you go to the county board of supervisors. If it's not LAPD's jurisdiction then it belongs to the Sheriff's Dept. Seriously, you are making it more complicated than it is. Here's a way to get started. Join https://nextdoor.com/ It's free and easy to use, there's even a way to invite your neighbors to join. Bring it up on the board, get other people involved and get 'er done

I was part of a very similar effort to do exactly this for the Sepulveda Dam area. It worked...once and for about 4 days. It's all the Sheriff's Dept, Metro, City, and the social agencies can do. The problems of the homeless and those that prey on them are so pervasive that even the most herculean efforts...for which there's only enough $ and political willpower to do once in a while (their words, not mine)...fade after a very short while. In other words they can't clean up these camps every single day but that's how often they appear.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Finper

your making this a lot easier then reality... Take a road trip out of 5000 homeless Sacramento and see what 57000 plus plus plus homeless is like here. You think I'm the only one complaining and trying to fix this? Moorlach our Senator is pulling his hair out he's so frustrated. They opened a big homeless shelter recently but it's practically empty because they don't want to give up there life style there. I wish I could post pics on this forum it would probably shock you and no amount of "meetings" is fixing this.

Ok, you live there and you are saying there's no point in trying locally to at least fix the problem in your neighborhood I can't argue that with you because I don't live there, but it seems rather fatalistic to just sit back and do nothing.

In our neighborhood we've been able to get several abandoned cars towed off that homeless people were sleeping in, we kept a walk up recycling center from opening, we've been able to cut way down on the number of homeless who make the rounds of all the neighborhood trash receptacles hunting for cans and throwing the other trash all over the street. Are there still problems, yes. Is it better than it was, definitely.

And just to put things in perspective:

Sacramento County population 1.4 million homeless population 2015 5,600
Los Angeles County population 10.29 million homeless population 2017 57,000

The # of homeless per capita is very close to being the same

[majoun]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Are you offering an excuse as to why it's futile to try to do anything about it? If it's a county issue you go to the county board of supervisors. If it's not LAPD's jurisdiction then it belongs to the Sheriff's Dept. Seriously, you are making it more complicated than it is. Here's a way to get started. Join https://nextdoor.com/ It's free and easy to use, there's even a way to invite your neighbors to join. Bring it up on the board, get other people involved and get 'er done

Living in an LAPD area is like living without cops.

[elhelmete]

Here's a better example, and it's close enough to the Orange Line that it's germane.

There's a little wall on Woodley between Victory and Vanowen, a little decorative wall on a corner of an apartment building's yard. It's painted baby blue. I drive by it 5x per week.

Every other day it's covered with gang tags. Every OTHER day it's repainted. It's been going on like this for at least 7 months; the wall must have 150 coats of paint on it.

I imagine the locals call 311 constantly and they come out and repaint the so technically the system works. But is it really?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by majoun

Living in an LAPD area is like living without cops.

I get that and Sac County is very similar. I've lived all over Northern California and I've never seen a more useless Sheriff's Dept but if you make enough noise they are forced to do their jobs. It shouldn't take that but it does. I think Fair Oaks, Arden-Arcade and Carmichael should get together and incorporate into one city and start their own police department like Citrus Heights did but I don't see it happening any time soon

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by elhelmete

Here's a better example, and it's close enough to the Orange Line that it's germane.

There's a little wall on Woodley between Victory and Vanowen, a little decorative wall on a corner of an apartment building's yard. It's painted baby blue. I drive by it 5x per week.

Every other day it's covered with gang tags. Every OTHER day it's repainted. It's been going on like this for at least 7 months; the wall must have 150 coats of paint on it.

I imagine the locals call 311 constantly and they come out and repaint the so technically the system works. But is it really?

I understand how frustrating it is, but regarding the wall, has anyone asked them why they don't use anti-graffiti paint? Some of it really works, graffiti washes right off with water.

[elhelmete]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I understand how frustrating it is, but regarding the wall, has anyone asked them why they don't use anti-graffiti paint? Some of it really works, graffiti washes right off with water.

It's not my immediate neighborhood, I just commute through it, and I have no idea what might have been said. I can also only guess that it's 311 calls that get the graffiti removed. After 100+ times I would hope someone knows about such paint.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by elhelmete

It's not my immediate neighborhood, I just commute through it, and I have no idea what might have been said. I can also only guess that it's 311 calls that get the graffiti removed. After 100+ times I would hope someone knows about such paint.

Graffiti removal is one thing that seems to be taken care of relatively quickly usually via 311
But I'm pretty sure it's outsourced to an outside contractor or contractors

[Finper]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Ok, you live there and you are saying there's no point in trying locally to at least fix the problem in your neighborhood I can't argue that with you because I don't live there, but it seems rather fatalistic to just sit back and do nothing.

In our neighborhood we've been able to get several abandoned cars towed off that homeless people were sleeping in, we kept a walk up recycling center from opening, we've been able to cut way down on the number of homeless who make the rounds of all the neighborhood trash receptacles hunting for cans and throwing the other trash all over the street. Are there still problems, yes. Is it better than it was, definitely.

And just to put things in perspective:

Sacramento County population 1.4 million homeless population 2015 5,600
Los Angeles County population 10.29 million homeless population 2017 57,000

The # of homeless per capita is very close to being the same

That's cute we have masses of rvs that tow truck companies won't even touch