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Old 07-18-2017, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Old 07-18-2017, 08:45 PM
 
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Agree, and if you're going to complain than do something about what is bothering you. As you said go volunteer, spend a Saturday cleaning up an area, donate some money,etc.

Just an example, I know someone who does a lot in regards to getting things like trash, old couches, etc that get dumped as well as getting graffitti removed. This person takes action and gets results, I was with them when a woman was COMPLAINING about a homeless encampment in Echo Park. This wasn't her first time complaining about to whoever will listen. He said to her "take some pictures and email me and I will see what I can do", she never did it. I just asked him did she ever get back to you, of course not, in fact he said at the time "she won't take the pictures".

Some people just like to complain and aren't happy unless they have something to complain about.
So I should go clean up the Orange Line bike path ? and get attacked by the violent homeless? Also I already "donate money" in the form of paying taxes to the corrupt city.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Agree, and if you're going to complain than do something about what is bothering you. As you said go volunteer, spend a Saturday cleaning up an area, donate some money,etc.

Just an example, I know someone who does a lot in regards to getting things like trash, old couches, etc that get dumped as well as getting graffitti removed. This person takes action and gets results, I was with them when a woman was COMPLAINING about a homeless encampment in Echo Park. This wasn't her first time complaining about to whoever will listen. He said to her "take some pictures and email me and I will see what I can do", she never did it. I just asked him did she ever get back to you, of course not, in fact he said at the time "she won't take the pictures".

Some people just like to complain and aren't happy unless they have something to complain about.
You're right, I hear people whine all the time about stuff but when you try to nail them down as to what they have done about it, it's usually *crickets* or they say "well once I called the Police", my response, don't call the police go in person and ask for the watch commander, take notes of the conversation, if there was a promise that they would do something follow up and if they failed to do what they promised go to the police
chief or the sheriff, if you don't get results then go to the next city council meeting. It works, it just takes some commitment
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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So I should go clean up the Orange Line bike path ? and get attacked by the violent homeless? Also I already "donate money" in the form of paying taxes to the corrupt city.
No, but you could report it to the police and if they don't do anything then go up the chain of command until you get results.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Retired in Malibu/La Quinta/Flagstaff
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I would contact the Metro Board of Directors and file a complaint. Fortunately, Eric Garcetti and Mike Bonin are members of the Board.

Oh, on second thought, never mind...
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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For those saying I should report it or "go up the chain of command"

This issue didn't start this month, this year or even this decade.

Bottom line is the city just doesn't care, no matter what lip service they say about , "working on solutions" .

Article here from 2009 about this being an issue.
Orange Line Bike Path Turning into Mini Skid Row: LAist
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Old 07-19-2017, 04:36 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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You people saying the solution is to file a complaint or something have no idea what you're typing about.

In my neighborhood we had a mentally deranged squatter. I filed three official complaints at the 311 website, and my neighbors complained via telephone to the city as well as the LAPD directly and via email. None of these actions did anything to get him out of the neighborhood and the only reason he's no longer here is that he died of natural causes.
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Old 07-19-2017, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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You people saying the solution is to file a complaint or something have no idea what you're typing about.

In my neighborhood we had a mentally deranged squatter. I filed three official complaints at the 311 website, and my neighbors complained via telephone to the city as well as the LAPD directly and via email. None of these actions did anything to get him out of the neighborhood and the only reason he's no longer here is that he died of natural causes.
Yes , I have done similar things and received the same poor results from the city on various issues .
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Old 07-19-2017, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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The homeless have all kinds of legal protection. Cleaning up bad areas like this just isn't going to happen until these problems are addressed at all levels of government with real, long term solutions. Get rid of homeless encampments? I'm all in favor of that - but just where are these people supposed to go? I know, somewhere we don't see them, so it's not our problem, right? That's how skid row functioned for years until gentrification took over Downtown L.A. The numbers of homeless people are growing, so they're more visible now, and this trend is not going to reverse itself. There are too many baby boomers who have no support system at all, and no real retirement money saved.

One step in the right direction would be to bring back the state mental hospitals; many people on the streets need to be monitored to make sure they're taking their anti-psychotic medication.

I often wonder what visitors think of our lovely city, that these problems are so visible and blatant, and yet nothing has been done to solve them. By the way, I voted "no" on the proposition to help the homeless a few months ago, because I felt it didn't go far enough - and the NIMBYs ("Not in my back yard!") would never go for such housing being anywhere near them. The money will be wasted on lawsuits, and it will take forever to see any real results.
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Old 07-19-2017, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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You people saying the solution is to file a complaint or something have no idea what you're typing about.

In my neighborhood we had a mentally deranged squatter. I filed three official complaints at the 311 website, and my neighbors complained via telephone to the city as well as the LAPD directly and via email. None of these actions did anything to get him out of the neighborhood and the only reason he's no longer here is that he died of natural causes.
What do you mean by 'squatter'? was he homeless on the streets or illegally occupying someone's home? And while I commend you and your neighbors for reporting it, it doesn't seem like you took the next step of going up the chain of the command and if that doesn't work go to City Council meetings with your neighbors and notify the media in advance that you will all be there. I know it works because I worked in the public sector long enough to have learned what works and what doesn't.
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