The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Brentwood: divorced, golden, for rent)

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Glad that he cares. He just needs to get his facts straight, though. Trash dumping is being done mostly by business owners, not the homeless.

You see, it's bogus information like that. Anybody who actually lives here knows that your statement is patently false.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

KFI? John and Ken? That’s your research verification submission?

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ... roflmmfao .... gawd amighty you’re a card!

You’ve been given multiple research studies concluding that Garcetti’s statement is false. Roughly 90% of LA’s homeless were either former Angelino’s or from neighboring counties. IIRC, it’s about 75% Angelino’s and 15% neighboring county former residents. So, yes, there are some LA homeless from “elsewhere”. Lol.

KFI opinion shock jocks are your validation ... too funny ...

So now KFI is fake news?

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ... roflmmfao .... gawd amighty you’re a card!

And I don't care about your ACLU funded studies -- those of us who actually live here know these new homeless people didn't simply lose their home and suddenly become urban bohemians over night. Use some common sense, eh?

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

There are posters here who keep lecturing us about the homeless situation in L.A. and arguing with us about it, when they don't live here and they don't know how dangerous the homeless are.

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

You see, it's bogus information like that. Anybody who actually lives here knows that your statement is patently false.

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

So now KFI is fake news?

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ... roflmmfao .... gawd amighty you’re a card!

And I don't care about your ACLU funded studies -- those of us who actually live here know these new homeless people didn't simply lose their home and suddenly become urban bohemians over night. Use some common sense, eh?

Three posts in a row without a lick of validation. Kudos Exitus.

The homeless are the same everywhere. The danger is not unique to LA.

KFI isn’t news. It’s entertainment radio with entertainer shock jocks like John and Ken who know zip about investigative journalism ... and couldn’t care a whit.

I have never quoted an “ACLU funded study” on homelessness. Angelinos lose their homes and become homeless by the dozens every week.

Opinions are not facts. You have been buried with facts in this thread for years. And all you come back with are empty personal opinions ... oh, and of course quotes from the KFI clowns, John and Ken.

[Genghis]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

A “right” to wonder? What kind of “right” is salacious interest? There’s been nothing to lead you to that comment you made.

When I was first in service we were indoctrinated with “no man left behind” commitment. A few years later, unconscious with concussion during a night assault I was left for dead. Hours later I made it back, alone, beat up but ready a day or so later to return to duty. Experience stuck with me. You’ve never been in the military let alone relied on and been relied upon by others for your life. There’s all kinds of people in the service, they’re not all good people. But, the brotherhood runs deep enough that I give a lot of consideration still because I understand how the experience can wear on a guy / gal. I was given a psychological makeup that endured the pressures well. But I see how it can easily and legitimately take a toll on many fine men and women. That’s the source of my particular motivation.

Well, there you go, you have a valid motivation. No need to get all touchy. Anyhow, I'm sure you've dealt with this category of individual enough to realize a lot of them do resort to escorting with older guys, and I've heard enough of these stories with the likes of Ed Buck or Ed Murray to wonder why some guy in his 70s is so devoted to the homeless and is taking them into his home. And I'm not homophobic; I'm actually gay myself. Unless I'm one of those self-hating gay guys and don't know it.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Genghis

Well, there you go, you have a valid motivation. No need to get all touchy. Anyhow, I'm sure you've dealt with this category of individual enough to realize a lot of them do resort to escorting with older guys, and I've heard enough of these stories with the likes of Ed Buck or Ed Murray to wonder why some guy in his 70s is so devoted to the homeless and is taking them into his home. And I'm not homophobic; I'm actually gay myself. Unless I'm one of those self-hating gay guys and don't know it.

What “category of individual” do you assign him to? Or me? What information did you have to develop your “category profile”? Seems to me you have a sexual obsession issue.

I didn’t take the veteran into my home. Nor am I “devoted to the homeless.” I am motivated to help certain veterans when I meet them and determine their potential can be reasonably served and assisted. Because of this history I have, I have taken the trouble to learn the issues and options.

I also belong to a small veteran’s service organization that owns / runs two houses sheltering about a half dozen homeless vets each, with case managers living on site to supervise. The veterans in these two houses have to qualify for our assistance as well as be enrolled with the VA for medical and treatment services. They are out of voluntary care and transitioning to moving out to their own VA assisted individual housing. Some stay 6 months. Some a year or so and enter training and work programs. Etc.

Sound sexual to you that a board of 8-12 successful veteran professionals in the greater community, who include physicians, lawyers, policemen, scientists and a former printer (me), volunteer their time without any compensation to help struggling brothers from service? Do you “wonder” what goes on between the roomers and board members in the rooms we provide in these houses?

Perhaps you can’t envision and grasp such assistance is strictly on the level because you don’t share such common experience as we do. But millions of people in this world - not just former military - commit to causes that benefit society without profit ... or sexual favors. Bizarre, huh?

[Genghis]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

What “category of individual” do you assign him to? Or me? What information did you have to develop your “category profile”? Seems to me you have a sexual obsession issue.

His category would be 'homeless drifter in need of a place to stay'. I don't really know much about you. I'm not obsessed with sex, I was just wondering what your deal was. Calm down, bro.

I didn’t take the veteran into my home. Nor am I “devoted to the homeless.” I am motivated to help certain veterans when I meet them and determine their potential can be reasonably served and assisted. Because of this history I have, I have taken the trouble to learn the issues and options.

Well, you did say "I just bought a little house (in Tacoma, WA) for under $100k, cash ... to give a homeless alcoholic veteran a shot at ‘rent to own’." This does sound like you taking him into your home, and makes you seem pretty devoted to the cause.

I also belong to a small veteran’s service organization that owns / runs two houses sheltering about a half dozen homeless vets each, with case managers living on site to supervise. The veterans in these two houses have to qualify for our assistance as well as be enrolled with the VA for medical and treatment services. They are out of voluntary care and transitioning to moving out to their own VA assisted individual housing. Some stay 6 months. Some a year or so and enter training and work programs. Etc.

Sound sexual to you that a board of 8-12 successful veteran professionals in the greater community, who include physicians, lawyers, policemen, scientists and a former printer (me), volunteer their time without any compensation to help struggling brothers from service? Do you “wonder” what goes on between the roomers and board members in the rooms we provide in these houses?

Well, now that you mention it... (Just a joke, ok?)

Perhaps you can’t envision and grasp such assistance is strictly on the level because you don’t share such common experience as we do. But millions of people in this world - not just former military - commit to causes that benefit society without profit ... or sexual favors. Bizarre, huh?

There are millions of people who are just out for themselves, and I bet there are more of them than people like you are describing. Anyhow, I'm glad you are looking out for your brethren. A lot of our wars are stupid wastes of time where we had no right to even be there, and many of these veterans are effectively casualties of such conflicts.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Three posts in a row without a lick of validation. Kudos Exitus.

The homeless are the same everywhere. The danger is not unique to LA.

KFI isn’t news. It’s entertainment radio with entertainer shock jocks like John and Ken who know zip about investigative journalism ... and couldn’t care a whit.

I have never quoted an “ACLU funded study” on homelessness. Angelinos lose their homes and become homeless by the dozens every week.

Opinions are not facts. You have been buried with facts in this thread for years. And all you come back with are empty personal opinions ... oh, and of course quotes from the KFI clowns, John and Ken.

Oh good grief, as stated, Garcetti's press release was part of the news cycle.

Furthermore, no, the homeless are not the same all over. The homeless in Burbank, for example, don't do the same things as the homeless in L.A., because the homeless know they can get away with much more here than in Burbank, thanks to the lax policies of L.A. City Hall. And if you lived here, you would know that. And that's a fact, Jack.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB52NEPJxUs

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Genghis

His category would be 'homeless drifter in need of a place to stay'. I don't really know much about you. I'm not obsessed with sex, I was just wondering what your deal was. Calm down, bro.

Heh. Genghis, you have no idea if I’m calm or agitated. . You’ve just been confronted by my (calm) intensity. With a career in military ordinance, including combat service, internet forum posts are hardly adrenaline rushes driving up my pulse rate. I lock on targets that call for mitigation. Capiche?

Originally Posted by Genghis

Well, you did say "I just bought a little house (in Tacoma, WA) for under $100k, cash ... to give a homeless alcoholic veteran a shot at ‘rent to own’." This does sound like you taking him into your home, and makes you seem pretty devoted to the cause..

Yeah. I said “rent to own”. And I described him as a carpenter / builder and the house as a shell, stripped for renovations. You jumped to “stripped for sexual favors.” Make sense? Maybe in your world.

No, it doesn’t sound like my home. I live on a little boat, as you know.

“Devoted to the cause”? Yeah. When circumstances warrant - I support. This guy is worth a shot. And there are others to take the deal if he fails.

Originally Posted by Genghis

Well, now that you mention it... (Just a joke, ok?)

No. Not really, ok. I have a terrific sense of humor. You’re not a bit funny. Perhaps especially so in this case because of the ignorant and cavalier manner you post mythology about homelessness whenever you “contribute”. You come across as malicious.

Originally Posted by Genghis

There are millions of people who are just out for themselves, and I bet there are more of them than people like you are describing. Anyhow, I'm glad you are looking out for your brethren. A lot of our wars are stupid wastes of time where we had no right to even be there, and many of these veterans are effectively casualties of such conflicts.

There certainly are more people who aren’t helping others than those who do. Lots more who don’t. Lots.

And I don’t condemn those who don’t. Not a bit. To each his own ... as long as they don’t engage in unnecessary barrier construction by creating false narratives.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Oh good grief, as stated, Garcetti's press release was part of the news cycle.

Furthermore, no, the homeless are not the same all over. The homeless in Burbank, for example, don't do the same things as the homeless in L.A., because the homeless know they can get away with much more here than in Burbank, thanks to the lax policies of L.A. City Hall. And if you lived here, you would know that. And that's a fact, Jack.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB52NEPJxUs

Garcetti’s statement is bullsh*t. I, and others, challenged it. You have failed to demonstrate his claim is correct - as we have shown it is not numerous times.

The homeless are the same. Environmental circumstances vary some. The “dangers” you fearmonger constantly aren’t unique to Burbank or LA. Or san Francisco. Or San Diego. Or Honolulu, Seattle, Portland et al. The dangers you fearmonger aren’t even unique to the homeless. They are dangers of diseases that can and do happen lots of places regardless of homeless presence. They are dangers of unstable mental illness that occur throughout all societies including among the housed.

Go to bed, Exitus.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

You see, it's bogus information like that. Anybody who actually lives here knows that your statement is patently false.

Yet you can't post a credible source to dispute it.