09-18-2012, 05:30 AM
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@ MBW
The University hasn't suggested any transportation, but they did mention that they are trying to locate nearby accommodation close to a bus route. They also mentioned that they shall keep on trying to look for convenient locations - so I am waiting to see if they suggest any more options for accommodation.
I shall be contacting the madindians forum too to look for any potential transportation assistance from them.
Couple of more questions:
To minimize travelling with bulky luggage all the way from India - I am planning to do the buying of the warm coats/jackets/sweaters/hat/boots and gloves for me and my wife from the US.
Now my travel route will be:
India to Chicago Flight - Van Gelder Bus at Chicago Airport to the Madison Memorial Union drop off - Call either union cabs/badger cabs - Travel Straight to my Apartment in Madison.
I also understand that Chicago too is pretty cold at that time - So my Question is this --> Will the Chicago Airport have Shops within the airport premises where I could buy the warm clothes on my way? Or is it Stupid to land in Chicago unprepared for the cold and travel with warm clothes from India itself?
And If I do have the option to buy the clothes from Chicago - Any Particular type of clothes to be given preference? e.g.: Fur/leather/thermal/particular brand/company? I wouldn't want to spend on the wrong type of good looking winter wear which would be useless in the madison weather.
Thanks again to all you lovely people on this forum :-)
09-18-2012, 05:53 AM
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for clothing, everyone on this forum who has spent winters in WI likely has their own preferences for what to wear, what works best for them, and tied to how bad the season is...
While yes you both will need some winter gear, December normally isnt the coldest month in winter.
My first suggestion would be to expect it to be colder when you land in US then what you may likely be used to regardless of actual temp. Ohare has shops, at minimum you could pick up a decent sweatshirt and hat/gloves if needed, so you at least can get yourself to Madison. Once in town, cab over to one of the malls or possibly one of the sporting goods chains (ie Dicks, Dunhams, etc) to do some shopping for what you'll want for those 3 months. "Columbia" is one of the more prominent brands of winter wear though there are plenty of others out there to choose from.
Most will suggest going with layers, which for your short period there would make more sense then spending large $$ on some hi end bulky coat that may only be needed a few times.
09-18-2012, 07:26 AM
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Cashmere is wonderful in cold weather. I buy cashmere sweaters, scarves, and gloves/mittens.
Wools is good too, but itchy, where cashmere isn't. Leather coats are great for fighting the wind.
The bottom line in dressing for cold weather is layers layers layers.
Example:
Start with a fitted shirt (t shirts work good), then long sleeve turtleneck, cashmere sweater on top, long wool coat, scarf, hat and wool gloves. Don't forget warm boots & socks.
(This would be for when it's really cold and allows you to remove layers if you're too warm.)
It's hard to predict what weather you'll experience when you land in Chicago. You could watch the forecast to see what they're predicting before you leave?
If you can fit it in your travel schedule, Chicago would be a GREAT place to clothes shop before you get to Madison.
09-18-2012, 05:37 PM
Location: Madison, WI
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I think it would be impractical to plan on buying your winter clothing at O'Hare. You are going to be dead tired and all they have is tourist apparel anyhow. Buy at least one good winter outfit for the trip here and go out shopping for the rest the next day in Madison.
I personally prefer down for my coats, but a good wool coat is good as well, especially for dress occasions. Come dressed in jeans and bring sweaters to put on when you arrive in Chicago. That and a good basic coat should get you to your apartment just fine.
09-18-2012, 05:55 PM
Location: South Florida
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Don't shop in the airport!
09-18-2012, 09:15 PM
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Megan beat me to it - I was going to suggest the same thing. You will pay horrendous prices if you shop in the airport stores. Bring along one warm outfit each, change clothes in the Chicago airport, and spend your first day in Madison getting the rest of your winter clothes.
I don't know how tight a budget you're going to be on, but if money is an issue, many people like to shop for second-hand goods at Goodwill Industries or St. Vincent de Paul. Particularly since you'll only be here for a few months, it bothers my frugal soul to think of you spending hundreds of dollars on a bunch of brand-new winter gear that will be left behind when you return to India in March.
If I were going to recommend the barebones basics you'll need to survive your first Midwestern winter, I'd suggest the following for each of you:
A good winter coat - either down-filled (my favorite) or all wool (almost as warm as down, looks very professional), and long enough to reach your knees.
Several pairs of heavy jeans or trousers, flannel-lined if you can find them.
Two or three sweaters or sweatshirts of different weights for layering.
A warm hat that covers your ears. If you are really concerned about messing up your hair, you can get away with just earmuffs as long as the temperatures don't go below zero Fahrenheit, but I strongly recommend you deal with "hat hair" and stay warmer. For what it's worth, most Madisonians go around all winter long with tousled hair from their hats, so you'll fit right in.
A good warm scarf, long enough to go round the neck twice.
Several pairs of heavy mittens and gloves. Avoid the fancy, thin leather gloves and go for the thick warm ones instead. You will need more than one pair because when they get wet, you have to get them completely dried before you can use them again.
Sturdy, warm snow boots that come up at least over your ankle, preferably halfway up your calf. Please tell your wife to avoid high-heeled fashion boots - they are an open invitation to a broken ankle if worn on an icy sidewalk. You want well insulated boots with a good rough tread to help you keep your footing in slippery conditions.
Optional but really nice to have: silk "longies," long underwear to add one more layer between you and the cold. They make them in both men's and women's sizes, both shirts and long pants to wear under your regular clothes. If you work in a chilly office building, which is a relatively common thing, wearing silk longies under your work clothes can be a lifesaver.
09-22-2012, 04:29 AM
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Thanks for the layering tips.. I shall commence my shopping for some of the layers in Mumbai...
I have also found one more suggestion for accomodation - the "Canterbury Inn Apartments" which is about 2.5 miles away with a single bus route - no transfer required... However, I could not find any Online reviews for this place.. Anyone have any first hand information advice on this? the downside is the tiny rooms and the absence of a kitchen... But upside is travelling convenience...
Really torn between this and the Extended Stay America...
Now the absence of a kitchen would mean a daily outside meal - How are the food charges in madison?
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11-15-2012, 07:10 AM
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Greetings all you wonderful people.
Visa: Done
Flights: Booked
Accommodation: Confirmed
Mental preparation for cold weather and snowstorms: Done
Should be reaching Madison in a month's time.
Now I would like to know what are the must-do, must-visit, must-see and must-experience places in and around Madison that I can squeeze in on weekends during my short stay from Dec-March? Any nice places to sightsee, hotels to eat, etc would be appreciated.
Thanks!
11-16-2012, 06:11 AM
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Welcome! I'm so glad to hear that things are coming together for your trip.
There are plenty of things to see and do in Madison, even in the winter. I keep a list of links to some of the more popular destinations, which I'll paste in below.
One quick question, though - did you wind up deciding to rent a vehicle while you are in Madison, or will you be using public transit? A couple of the sight-seeing suggestions I usually offer are outside the city and would require a vehicle to reach.
Dane County Farmers Market:
Dane County Farmers' Market - Dane County Farmers' Market | Dane County Farmers' Market | The Largest Producer-Only Farmers' Market in the U.S. - reachable by bus
Monona Terrace:
Monona Terrace Community and Convention Center - reachable by bus
WidMir:
Wisconsin Institutes for Discovery - Discovery Home - reachable by bus
Memorial Union:
Home - Wisconsin Union - reachable by bus
Vilas Zoo:
Henry Vilas Zoo : Home Page - reachable by bus
UW Arboretum:
University of Wisconsin-Madison Arboretum - reachable by bus
Olbrich Botanical Gardens:
Olbrich Botanical Gardens - Madison Wisconsin - reachable by bus
State Capitol Building:
Wisconsin.gov - - Capitol Tour - reachable by bus
Madison Museum of Contemporary Art:
Madison Museum of Contemporary Art | MMoCA - reachable by bus
Chazen Museum:
Chazen Museum of Art - reachable by bus
Wisconsin Historical Museum:
Wisconsin Historical Museum - reachable by bus
Wisconsin Veterans Museum:
Wisconsin Veterans Museum - reachable by bus
Madison Children’s Museum:
Madison Children's Museum - Fun Family Activities in Madison WI - reachable by bus
Frank Lloyd Wright Museum at Taliesin:
Frank Lloyd Wright | Taliesin - you would need to drive to this one
House on the Rock:
House on the Rock - The Resort l The Attraction l The Inn - you would need to drive to this one
For dining recommendations, there is an entire thread you can peruse, right here:
https://www.city-data.com/forum/madis...t-madison.html . Do read through to the end, though, as some of the restaurants mentioned in the early posts have since closed. And some of the suggestions would be tricky to reach by bus, if you won't have a vehicle.
Safe travels, and have a wonderful time during your stay!
11-16-2012, 09:49 AM
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Thanks for that extensive list. I shall try to visit them all. :-)
As for vehicle - I haven't found any satisfactory resource for short term rental vehicles that would work for me.
I have decided to utilize public transport buses and the occasional radio cab service like badger cabs, madison cabs, etc.. to roam around.
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Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)