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Does anyone remember the stick on "deer whistles" they used to sell? You stuck them on your bumper and supposedly they made a high pitched noise that only deer coud hear. The idea was that deer were irritated by the noise and would go off in the opposite direction. Do they work??? I have no clue. Are there Moose whistles on the market?? Could be a business oppurtunity here??
I have a set. My wife's mother got them for me after my little car got totaled when I hit one that bounded out onto the Interstate. They're still in the package.
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Originally Posted by Roadkill95
I used to get a lot of cars in the shop with them that hit deer so I would say they don't work.
Most people do not hit the deer the deer hit them. they stand on the side of the road in the brush and just as you get to them they jump, sometimes in front of the car sometimes in the side. Most people don't even see them until its over.
Both of the ones I've hit have been on Interstates. The last one was in the median, down low, and I couldn't see it until it ran up onto the road in front of me. I tried to avoid it but it was just too close, Clipped the hind quarter. Would have cost more to fix the car than what I paid for it in the first place.
Why can't game wardens and perhaps others who tag animals for research do a little tagging with the moose population? More specifically, leave a tag that drivers can see at night. Something that is reflective - like a band around their neck, or legs. It may be quite an undertaking and I don't see why hunters couldn't help out if they were inclined or given incentive. I think it's doable. Obviously they wouldn't come close to getting the entire herd, but even if they got a fair percentage it would translate to safer nighttime driving.
I'm certain this type of service wouldn't come free and wouldn't expect it to. I would gladly pay my share for a worthy cause. Consider it a road tax. My wife drives to work for 11 p.m. 5 nights a week and has only a couple more years to go. She travels through plenty of back country along the way and I say a little prayer for her each time. I think that reflective collars on large animals could make that drive just a little more secure.
Moose aren't tagged or collared in Maine. If they were, how are you going to protect bulls from getting antlers caught up collars during rut battles? Or keep a band on their legs from getting them stuck on a tree, stump, etc? Maine has approximately 29,000 moose. How much is it going to cost to find, tranquilize and collar or tag the moose? Imagine the number of biologists it would require. That's a lot of money, a lot of man hours and a lot of people risking their health and safety on pissed off moose that aren't completely unconscious.
I think this is being over analyzed. Accidents happen. They're called accidents, not on purposes. A yearling bull nearly hit my daughter's car while she was parked. If we're being rational and realistic, there's only so much you can do.
Moose aren't tagged or collared in Maine. If they were, how are you going to protect bulls from getting antlers caught up collars during rut battles? Or keep a band on their legs from getting them stuck on a tree, stump, etc? Maine has approximately 29,000 moose. How much is it going to cost to find, tranquilize and collar or tag the moose? Imagine the number of biologists it would require. That's a lot of money, a lot of man hours and a lot of people risking their health and safety on pissed off moose that aren't completely unconscious.
I think this is being over analyzed. Accidents happen. They're called accidents, not on purposes. A yearling bull nearly hit my daughter's car while she was parked. If we're being rational and realistic, there's only so much you can do.
That reminds me of the time my Mother-in-Law was nearly mowed over by a bull moose as she went to her mailbox to get the mail. She never saw him coming and he passed within two feet of her while she was looking at the mail! We have 'em right down here in Freeport! Every summer during the height of fly season several of them will take to my inlaw's pond to get the flies off them. My FIL always runs out with a camera to take pictures.
This was another tragic accident. I am very sorry for the loss of this young man. That said, I believe that it is our responsibility to manage the herd primarily for its health and well being. Permit allocation is one of the tools used to manage the herd. In my opinion, motorist safety is a separate problem. I would be opposed to manipulating permit allocation in an attempt to reduce moose-vehicle collisions. I tend to side with those that say the answer lies with motorists and not manipulating the moose population solely for our safety. We tell folks that plan to visit us that it is best to be off the roads before dark. Reduced speed, heightened awareness and use of high beams may help if travel after dark is necessary. I can only speak for myself when I say that I am more than willing to share the road with moose and accept the accompanying risk in exchange for the priveledge lof living in an area where these creatures can be found and hunted (if fortunate enough to get drawn).
Not everything is statistical, sometimes it is just wrong place, wrong time.
The first thing a researcher might do, is attempt to determine if the frequency of moose-vehicle collisions happen is higher than simple chance would dictate.
If so, then see if there might be something about vehicles--or certain vehicles--that cause animals like deer and moose to enter the road space just as the vehicle is approaching.
I was wondering: do lumber trucks collide with moose as often as cars do? You would think they'd be more likely to hit moose because of where the trucks operate and how fast they go.
The first thing a researcher might do, is attempt to determine if the frequency of moose-vehicle collisions happen is higher than simple chance would dictate.
If so, then see if there might be something about vehicles--or certain vehicles--that cause animals like deer and moose to enter the road space just as the vehicle is approaching.
I was wondering: do lumber trucks collide with moose as often as cars do? You would think they'd be more likely to hit moose because of where the trucks operate and how fast they go.
Yes they do! I have seen what's left of a moose that was hit by a fully loaded log truck......hamburger!
It does a good job on the front end of the truck too.
Yes they do! I have seen what's left of a moose that was hit by a fully loaded log truck......hamburger!
It does a good job on the front end of the truck too.
Would you think that people driving full sized pickup trucks more likely on average to be less hurt in a collision with moose?
This was another tragic accident. I am very sorry for the loss of this young man. That said, I believe that it is our responsibility to manage the herd primarily for its health and well being. Permit allocation is one of the tools used to manage the herd. In my opinion, motorist safety is a separate problem. I would be opposed to manipulating permit allocation in an attempt to reduce moose-vehicle collisions. I tend to side with those that say the answer lies with motorists and not manipulating the moose population solely for our safety. We tell folks that plan to visit us that it is best to be off the roads before dark. Reduced speed, heightened awareness and use of high beams may help if travel after dark is necessary. I can only speak for myself when I say that I am more than willing to share the road with moose and accept the accompanying risk in exchange for the priveledge lof living in an area where these creatures can be found and hunted (if fortunate enough to get drawn).
Kevin
I don't mind driving slow.
I like driving slow.
But the problem is other drivers get PO'd at me for going slow, even though when I see another car coming up on me from behind, I move over as far as I can to let them pass, and the SOB's sometimes still point a certain finger at me.
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