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Old 01-01-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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So now that we pretty much decided we don't wanna be part of the South, why don't we go ahead and start discussing WHY Maryland is Northeastern.

You can't use arguments like geography, because we all know that if the Mason-Dixon line argument is irrelevant, then the idea that MD borders Pennsylvania and Delaware makes it Northeastern is also irrelevant. Besides, if you extend the east-west aspect of the Mason-Dixon line all the way to California, Maryland pretty much is in the lower half of the US. So the geography argument is irrelevant from any side of the argument.



Now, I don't want your argument to be why Maryland is not Southern. I'm not here to discuss the Southern identity of the state by any means. If you think it's Northeastern, then argue for that. I see no reason for arguing based on a negative position to try and prove a positive.

So, with this being said, let's bring up our best arguments for why Maryland is NORTHEASTERN. You can argue about anything, and explain why. Simply saying "it's Northeastern and you won't convince me otherwise" shows that you have nothing to say. So, I ask you, how is Maryland a Northeastern state?
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Old 01-01-2015, 02:02 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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It's Northeastern because of the way the political system is set up, lots of small independent towns in charge of their own destinies with weak County based government.

The same with the very small and local school systems based on a municipality instead of the County.

Don't forget to include the bottom up educational bureaucracy where Maryland State Department of Education can't require systems to adopt Voluntary State Curricula or Common Core State Standards.

Maybe include the fact that localities don't have to have Legislative approval to enact local laws.

Maybe the state run liquor system that exists instead of each County having its own liquor board granting licenses.















(For those who aren't familiar with Maryland, none of the above are true of the state but are true of Northeastern states)

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Old 01-01-2015, 02:54 PM
 
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Maryland is definitely a lower northeastern state get over it. Someone from New England with the world's most ugliest accent known to man!
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Old 01-01-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Who cares??????????
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Old 01-01-2015, 03:52 PM
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Location: Greenville, NC
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(For those who aren't familiar with Maryland, none of the above are true of the state but are true of Northeastern states)
I sure am glad you added this. I thought you had bumped your head for a minute.
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Old 01-01-2015, 03:57 PM
Status: "48 years in MD, 18 in NC" (set 12 days ago)
 
Location: Greenville, NC
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Does this make the case?

The Census Bureau just released a new set of state population estimates. These estimates revealed a definite pattern: there are definitely two different regions within the United States, each with their own pattern of growth. For simplicity’s sake, I’m calling these “America1” and “America2.” Neither is meant to be pejorative, but I think these labels reflect the role these regions will take in American life going forward.

For clarity’s sake, in this definition, America1 is largely made up of the Northeast, the Midwest, the Mississippi Valley, the Northern Plains and Alaska. America2 is the coastal Southeast from the Mason Dixon line south, as well as Kentucky, Tennessee and Alabama, as well as Texas, much of the West and Hawaii.

Read more: Adam Carstens

Maybe not. That guy lumps Maryland into the Southeast.
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Old 01-01-2015, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I think Maryland could pass for a Northeastern state. It does have some extremely mild southern characteristics, but I think it has more in common with northeastern states, especially with regard to wealth, housing, politics and the lack of southern accents.
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Old 01-01-2015, 04:13 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Does this make the case?

The Census Bureau just released a new set of state population estimates. These estimates revealed a definite pattern: there are definitely two different regions within the United States, each with their own pattern of growth. For simplicity’s sake, I’m calling these “America1” and “America2.” Neither is meant to be pejorative, but I think these labels reflect the role these regions will take in American life going forward.

For clarity’s sake, in this definition, America1 is largely made up of the Northeast, the Midwest, the Mississippi Valley, the Northern Plains and Alaska. America2 is the coastal Southeast from the Mason Dixon line south, as well as Kentucky, Tennessee and Alabama, as well as Texas, much of the West and Hawaii.

Read more: Adam Carstens

Maybe not. That guy lumps Maryland into the Southeast.
Don't go by the feds. Their departments don't talk to each other. The National Archives says that Maryland is MidAtlantic.
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Old 01-01-2015, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Berkeley Springs, WV
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Don't go by the feds. Their departments don't talk to each other. The National Archives says that Maryland is MidAtlantic.
Lived here most of my life and always considered Maryland to be Mid-Atlantic....but what do I know.
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Old 01-01-2015, 06:12 PM
 
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I think Maryland could pass for a Northeastern state. It does have some extremely mild southern characteristics, but I think it has more in common with northeastern states, especially with regard to wealth, housing, politics and the lack of southern accents.
Wealth: So, poor cities like Hartford, CT and Camden NJ are not Northeastern?
Housing: Architecture, you mean? This I agree is a Northeastern commonality.
Politics: The large amount of Blacks and Federal workers in the state make it a hotbed for Democrats, yes
Lack of Southern accents: So everywhere except the South is now the Northeast? I'm from the Midwest originally, and we too lack Southern accents.

I do find this funny, though. MD has a lack of MANY accents, not just Southern. The Southern periphery of the state sounds Southern, but these days, Whites in Baltimore and DC sound General American, NOT Northeastern.
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