DeMoulas Market Basket protest (military, education, pay)

[in_newengland]

That IS funny. As if he deserves an anthem. He has been elevated to God-like or saint-like level, a little over the top. But I'm glad he won and the good seems to have won out over the bad.

[luvmyhoss]

He was not blameless.

[magicshark]

Originally Posted by luvmyhoss

He was not blameless.

I don't get how people just skip over this. Try, I dare you, to get any Arthur T. supporter to just acknowledge the court judgements against him, not his father. He, personally, helped his father defraud his widowed aunt. His lawyer in the case his cousins brought against him was disbarred for paying a stripper to lie on the stand. That same disbarred lawyer is still on his payroll as a paid consultant. There is more but I think that about sums him up. That court case is why the other half of the family had 50.5 per cent of the company. It was court awarded. I think the cult of MB just might be worshipping a false God.

[jayrandom]

Originally Posted by mainebrokerman

mass governor got involved with negotiations a week or two ago (duval)


this is a case study for the ages.... there is such a thing as loyalty, also, there are many chapters to this that will never be written

to see all these folks hugging one another as they came back to work, you cant buy that sentiment, the little guys won a battle for a big guy


one of the largest employee revolts I've ever seen and they weren't unionized.....whats that tell you??
in fact, during the first protests, the ufcw union was out there, and they were told to "back off"

Duval is the name of many things, but our Governor is Deval.

[mdovell]

"We were talking about how you spewed nonsense about the Sarbanes Oxley Act despite not knowing what you were talking about. For the rest of it, we've already expressed the context of our disagreement fully. There's no sense in going through it again, just to see if you're able to overcome your lack of knowledge about the matter on this second try.

The fact of the matter is that CEOs are responsible to the shareholders - period - even though we don't like it. And the shareholders have a voice just about as loud as the number of shares they hold - period - even though we don't like it. Even though it ruins your narrative."

I agree that CEO's are responsible to shareholders. The Co- CEO's that were put in failed in their responsibility to provide profits. They get into a position and sales drop 90-95%. How are they not responsible?

"Relative success. I wasn't making a value-judgement. I was relaying to you the reality of the situation, being someone who lived through it all and actually knows about what you're lamely attempting to talk about. This is my career - what I do for a living and have done for a living very successfully for decades. "

Lived though it all? Huh? I haven't any idea what you do for a living but if it involves message board posts all day long how can you honestly be busy ?

I don't like it. The fact that I don't like it doesn't matter. And the fact that you don't like it doesn't matter either.

"Have you been living under your parents' bedroom for the past 20 years? Are we really reduced down to this level in this discussion? Face it: You want things to match your starry-eyed idealistic view. They don't. Get over it."

Starry eyed? The company could have easily fired everyone that went out on strike. There was no collective bargaining agreement protecting their at will employment status. I worked in areas where people tried to organize and it was shut down or some cheap bribe was given and work was outsourced to other offices and thus closed it down due to having "no work". Customers are stakeholders and so are employees.

I told you over a month ago simple game theory meant they would have to sell to T. You can call it a mob all you want but you cannot break logical thought.

Next thing you'll tell us is that crowdfunding or sourcing does work or open source doesn't work. The 1990's ended awhile ago.

[CaseyB]

Originally Posted by magicshark

I don't get how people just skip over this. Try, I dare you, to get any Arthur T. supporter to just acknowledge the court judgements against him, not his father. He, personally, helped his father defraud his widowed aunt. His lawyer in the case his cousins brought against him was disbarred for paying a stripper to lie on the stand. That same disbarred lawyer is still on his payroll as a paid consultant. There is more but I think that about sums him up. That court case is why the other half of the family had 50.5 per cent of the company. It was court awarded. I think the cult of MB just might be worshipping a false God.

There were actually 2 lawyers who were disbarred as a result of the court case. And Artie T punched Artie S.


I doubt many of the employees or customers know much about the detail of the court case or the origin of the family dispute. Most likely they wouldn't understand it or wouldn't care.


Supposedly, there is a separate lawsuit involving the real estate side deals made by Artie T with relatives of his wife involving the land where some of the stores are situated. I wonder if or when that will proceed.

[timberline742]

What a f*cked up family does to each other doesn't concern me one little bit. How a boss treats their lowest level employees does.

[magicshark]

Originally Posted by timberline742

What a f*cked up family does to each other doesn't concern me one little bit. How a boss treats their lowest level employees does.

Well see even that is smoke and mirrors. Cashiers and baggers make a higher starting pay at both Hannaford and Stop and Shop.

And I am sorry but I do find it morally reprehensible. If you can f- over your own widowed auntie whose to say he won't do it to his employees?

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by magicshark

Well see even that is smoke and mirrors. Cashiers and baggers make a higher starting pay at both Hannaford and Stop and Shop.

Doesn't mean they're treated better. Some of the employers I've had that paid me the most were the worst.

[magicshark]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Doesn't mean they're treated better. Some of the employers I've had that paid me the most were the worst.

But you just don't know. I am going to guess every store it will depend on your immediate boss. This just makes my point that it comes across as MB supporters have a cult like following. All roads will lead to MB being the best at everything regardless of where that road might really lead.