What was the Big lie told to the public to legalize marijuana in Massachusetts and...... (Boston: buying, high school)

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by Shrewsburried

So what you're suggesting is these kids should leave the public housing complex, in which their gang affiliated cousin and associates live, to play basketball with college kids on Wentworth/Northeastern campuses where they know campus police will maintain some peace. Okay, we've come full circle.

Now leave the kids alone because they're trying to avoid the damn cycle.

OK so now they are getting harassed at Wentworth/Northeastern? We sure have come full circle here.

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by massnative71

OK so now they are getting harassed at Wentworth/Northeastern? We sure have come full circle here.

Ruggles = Northeastern
Mission Hill = Colleges of Fenway + Northeastern

Yes, the same kids would migrate between neighborhood parks and public access courts on campuses depending on the types occupying the parks or courts at any given time. Local college kids would do the same as neither group was too willing to share courts with proper "bad guys". University security staff was often from the neighborhood and knew the kids in some capacity, so if the kids weren't an issue they would leave them alone - particularly in the summer months.

[masssachoicetts]

I thought Mission Hill was mostly BU and Northeastern?

(Is BU a Fenway school by technic terms?)

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by masssachoicetts

I thought Mission Hill was mostly BU and Northeastern?

(Is BU a Fenway school by technic terms?)

BU is Allston/Comm Ave. Doubtful there are many BU students in Mission Hill as it's not terribly convenient either by foot or T.

Mission Hill, at least when I was in school, was largely Northeastern, Wentworth, MassArt, MFA, Emmanuel, Mass Pharmacy, and I assume some Harvard Med.

[masssachoicetts]

Originally Posted by Shrewsburried

BU is Allston/Comm Ave. Doubtful there are many BU students in Mission Hill as it's not terribly convenient either by foot or T.

Mission Hill, at least when I was in school, was largely Northeastern, Wentworth, MassArt, MFA, Emmanuel, Mass Pharmacy, and I assume some Harvard Med.

Ah true. Brighton Allston definitely have BU plethora then.

[Space_League]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

I don’t think I was clear.

I’ve never heard of any black or Latino Boston teens OD’ing...

Originally Posted by GeePee

I'm going to have to disagree with this one. Not sure if you are speaking of college in general, but where I grew up I went to half a dozen funerals for overdoses before I left high school. There were plenty more that followed after too.

it would be interesting to see the age breakdown by race for this stats. I think with whitess there's two main categories of OD deaths, (1) young blue collar guy (or middle/upper class guy imitating them) (2) older derelict guy possibly homeless . i think black ODs are basically the same in 2nd category but the 1st category is almost nonexistant.

It's hard for me to speak to most of Boston black / latino teens but the ones I do know basically just stick to smoking pot and drinking, maybe at worse some codeine drinks. Most that I met have never used cocaine nevermind harder opiates. The exception is the guys who sell the drugs. I would say it's 50/50 as many times even those guys don't do them but just as often they will. Often their close friends and associates are the ones who will use them, perhaps fatally

Totally different from white teens where drug experiements are seen as some right of passage. By 18 many have tried all sorts of psychedelics, pills, powders, you name it. The sources /quality often questionable. After high school some of them work dull jobs, live dull lifes and dives down the rabbit hole to find some sense of meaning in it. They end up in the ground like GeePee describes

[masssachoicetts]

Isnt it true that the opioid death rate went down in 2019?

[Space_League]

Originally Posted by masssachoicetts

Isnt it true that the opioid death rate went down in 2019?

Yes

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by masssachoicetts

Isnt it true that the opioid death rate went down in 2019?

nationally,

but it declined in MA in 2017 and 2018 and then spiked in 2019

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by Space_League

it would be interesting to see the age breakdown by race for this stats. I think with whitess there's two main categories of OD deaths, (1) young blue collar guy (or middle/upper class guy imitating them) (2) older derelict guy possibly homeless . i think black ODs are basically the same in 2nd category but the 1st category is almost nonexistant.

It's hard for me to speak to most of Boston black / latino teens but the ones I do know basically just stick to smoking pot and drinking, maybe at worse some codeine drinks. Most that I met have never used cocaine nevermind harder opiates. The exception is the guys who sell the drugs. I would say it's 50/50 as many times even those guys don't do them but just as often they will. Often their close friends and associates are the ones who will use them, perhaps fatally

Totally different from white teens where drug experiements are seen as some right of passage. By 18 many have tried all sorts of psychedelics, pills, powders, you name it. The sources /quality often questionable. After high school some of them work dull jobs, live dull lifes and dives down the rabbit hole to find some sense of meaning in it. They end up in the ground like GeePee describes

Black teens don't even drink that much. As stated, some do promethazine cough syrup but they're usually the more truant/street types.

Percocet and Xanax get a little bit of use but not much-honestly growing up the black kids i knew involved in that usually went to METCO high schools.

As for the black young blue collar guy OD'ing yea i've never heard of it.