Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Boston: house, school, university)

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

So your all vaccinated and were sick 3 months ago, and now some are sick again?

What is stupid is now everyone who doesn't feel good for a day or two associates it with covid and acts like they would have died. People are sick all the time and most of the time for just a day or two and we are fine, but now we act like some miracle vaccine cured them.

That is true. I had cold-like symptoms since Friday. Today they were real bad. I took a Covid test; it came out negative. This is just what people do these days.

I will add that at some point I am likely to die.

[OutdoorLover]

Originally Posted by rach5

Wastewater signal going insane in MA. Hold on tight.
https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm

The main worry I have right now is that we won't have updated vaccines and treatments for the vast majority of us in the fall - I am losing hope that our government is funding anything.

Both Moderna and Pfizer have multiple vaccine candidates in the clinical trials stage of development for an expected fall release, so I think the technical risk is fairly low. Of course we'll still have to see if the government and/or insurance companies get behind them as far as making them free for recipients, but so far that hasn't been a problem.

There are also numerous efforts underway to try to develop a pan-coronavirus vaccine, though this ambitious work has more technical risk and may take some time, if it's successful.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d415...ARS%2DCoV%2D1.

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

So your all vaccinated and were sick 3 months ago, and now some are sick again?

I had the flu 3 weeks before Covid. I wasn't sick 3 months ago. As far as I know i've never had Covid until now.

In both cases, it was our 4-year old catching it in school, and then us catching is while caring for him. Tons of his classmates were out. He was not vaccinated against flu or covid. He had a rough go with the flu, but Covid was less than 24 hours of fever and he was back to bouncing off the walls.

[Williepaws]

according to necn, we have monkeypox in Ma. a guy got it in Canada. Let that spread to a couple people and we could have a first class panic!

[OutdoorLover]

Originally Posted by Williepaws

according to necn, we have monkeypox in Ma. a guy got it in Canada. Let that spread to a couple people and we could have a first class panic!

So I am not one given to panic, but am always curious... some interesting comments from a Washington Post article:

"Monkeypox is not known to spread easily between humans. The fact that cases are emerging in several countries at once — with signs of 'sustained' transmission in people — is striking, said Aris Katzourakis, a professor of evolution and genomics at the University of Oxford... 'It’s either a lot of bad luck or something quite unusual happening here', Katzourakis said.... Mass vaccination against smallpox 'presumably' curbed monkeypox infections for a time among humans, researchers wrote in a 2005 article. But cases resurged, thanks in part to a lack of immunity in later generations, they say." Thanks again, antivax fools.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...monkeypox-faq/

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by OutdoorLover

So I am not one given to panic, but am always curious... some interesting comments from a Washington Post article:

"Monkeypox is not known to spread easily between humans. The fact that cases are emerging in several countries at once — with signs of 'sustained' transmission in people — is striking, said Aris Katzourakis, a professor of evolution and genomics at the University of Oxford... 'It’s either a lot of bad luck or something quite unusual happening here', Katzourakis said.... Mass vaccination against smallpox 'presumably' curbed monkeypox infections for a time among humans, researchers wrote in a 2005 article. But cases resurged, thanks in part to a lack of immunity in later generations, they say." Thanks again, antivax fools.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...monkeypox-faq/

^Ah, let the conspiracy theories begin!

[in_newengland]

Well, in the days of smallpox there wasn't the amount of travel that there is now. I've been hearing about monkeypox in the UK. Canada is part of the commonwealth so travel between the UK and Canada is probably high. That could be how it got into Canada. Then a MA person goes to Canada and brings it back to MA.

So I guess it's not that improbable that it's now here in MA. There are probably more cases out there that we'll be hearing about. Too bad our smallpox vaccinations wore off long ago, for those of us who got them!

[OutdoorLover]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

^Ah, let the conspiracy theories begin!

Must be a bioweapons program that Joe Biden has going on with China and Venezuela! And, obviously he's trying to damage Trump with this. I mean, what else could it possibly be???

[DXBtoFL]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Yeah, wasn't referring so much to the origin of the variants, vs. the fact that they are circulating so readily and rapidly. No doubt that if we were at measles-level vaccination rates, Covid if not eradicated, would at least be in the rearview mirror from a practical standpoint.

I had to jump in to say this is a bizarre assumption, to put it politely.

Notice how people getting infected *today* are just as likely to be vaccinated as unvaccinated. Everyone I know who's picked up COVID this year were doubly vaccinated and boostered.

How do you assume that COVID would have been vanquished when it just evolves to evade the vaccines through encountering the vaccinated? Which is typical of a virus. At the same time, typical of a virus, it evolves to be weaker and weaker. The Spanish Flu is still with us today! It's also why we get the flu shot every year rather than just once. Everyone getting the flu shot in one December doesn't mean there will be no flu the following winter. Even if every single American had been vaccinated, we'd still have COVID. And just like the flu shot, getting one doesn't mean you still won't get the flu, but it reduces the symptoms.

The ignorance was the assumption that COVID could have been vanquished like some sort of enemy. It's not the measles. It's a corona virus. That's why it's called COVID.

For all practical purposes COVID is already in the rearview mirror. Politically it certainly is, even the left states have moved on.

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by DXBtoFL

For all practical purposes COVID is already in the rearview mirror. Politically it certainly is, even the left states have moved on.

I think Covid of May '22 is different than Covid of Mar '20. It may not be different from a viral standpoint, but in terms of perception, many folks don't care anymore.

When my MIL got it back in Mar '20 and was in the ICU, my wife donned a white bunny suit to go into her house to retrieve items.

When my 4-year old son got it 2 weeks ago, we took ZERO precautions. No masks, no sanitizing, nothing. We just shrugged our shoulders and assumed it was only a matter of time and just said "lets get it over with"

I'm not saying covid has officially transgressed to being "harmless" but i don't think i'm alone in saying that a lot of folk's perception of it has changed.