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Old 09-19-2023, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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This is an interesting video people who mocked the unvaccinated died shortly after. One was a bodybuilder saying I'll be the test if the vaccine is safe......
https://x.com/ray_hessel/status/1704...UKJgXWlAg&s=09

https://twitter.com/ray_hessel/statu...yaD8LwRvA&s=19 . you might have to scroll down to the video. Strange coincidence s
How about you post cases of the voluntarily unvaccinated who died prematurely from Covid? That list is far far longer.
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Old 09-19-2023, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
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Surprisingly there was no rampant Covid during our 9 days cruise as it was on some cruises in 2021-2032. After every cruise people were reporting positive cases. Nothing now even though we had lots of inclement weather so people stayed inside often.
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Old 09-22-2023, 06:57 PM
 
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^That's a total misinterpretation. In a proper lab study, you can in fact test adherence vs. non-adherence to wearing masks. That's probably the biggest variable in real life. From a pure physics standpoint, it can readily be shown that N95 masks work to block viruses and particulates down to very small sizes. That's how they get NIOSH-certified.
Sure. Berlin made people wear n95 and result was no different than rest of Germany. Nobody should be forced to wear especially considering its emergency use and they never tested possible negative results from wearing one.
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Old 09-23-2023, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Sure. Berlin made people wear n95 and result was no different than rest of Germany. Nobody should be forced to wear especially considering its emergency use and they never tested possible negative results from wearing one.
Look up how NIOSH certification works, then tell anyone with a straight face that N95 masks don't work.
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Old 09-23-2023, 05:11 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Look up how NIOSH certification works, then tell anyone with a straight face that N95 masks don't work.
The key is that they need to be worn properly. Very few people do that.
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Old 09-23-2023, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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The key is that they need to be worn properly. Very few people do that.
OK, so can we say that "masks worn properly and in adherence to use guidelines" work? To blanket claim that "masks don't work" is clickbait.
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Old 09-23-2023, 06:51 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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OK, so can we say that "masks worn properly and in adherence to use guidelines" work? To blanket claim that "masks don't work" is clickbait.
That is like saying “if its and buts were candy and nuts, we’d have a great Christmas.” What you are describing is most unlikely to happen.
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Old 09-23-2023, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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That is like saying “if its and buts were candy and nuts, we’d have a great Christmas.” What you are describing is most unlikely to happen.
"Masks don't work" is like saying "seatbelts don't work". The nuanced "if worn properly" totally changes the message, but alas that's not the aim of those who have been gleefully and selectively quoting these papers.

Ask doctors / nurses / EMT personnel who have been wearing masks for decades whether they work or not.
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Old 09-24-2023, 12:32 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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"Masks don't work" is like saying "seatbelts don't work". The nuanced "if worn properly" totally changes the message, but alas that's not the aim of those who have been gleefully and selectively quoting these papers.

Ask doctors / nurses / EMT personnel who have been wearing masks for decades whether they work or not.
What I should say, using a lot more words, is that mass promotion of masks to the public will not have much effect on the spread of Covid.
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Old 09-24-2023, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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What I should say, using a lot more words, is that mass promotion of masks to the public will not have much effect on the spread of Covid.
^This, I would buy, yes.
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