What schools are opening hybrid/in person? (Boston, Lowell: apartments, lease)

[mdovell]

Could we maybe get a sticky or a list of what academic institions are offering in terms of the reopening? This can have a huge impact on the economy as surrounding businesses rely on students.


Well if you get the WSJ this might have a HUGE impact on the economy.


Basically it breaks down to this. If the school is hybrid classes and online and if they are here or not (foreign students.


If the student is here and the class is ONLY online they have to find a physical institution or leave
If the student is not here the the class is ONLY online they can only take it online, you cannot enter the US
If the student is here and it is a hybrid class they can stay
If the student is not here they can come to the USA and take a hybrid class

basically the concept is that if there are students coming in they have to be here physically in some capacity. They cannot come here and take the same online class that they could have taken overseas.


Then add covid on top of this.

UMass Boston said they are ALL online. So basically if the students left they can't really go back at this point unless they transfer to a physical class.

Umass amherst is *totally* screwed from this. This is literally the opposite of their plan
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/...return-campus/
They were actually saying that they wanted students to come back for online classes. Well they can't.

This is going to be a total cluster. This means pretty much that if a class is totally online students have to leave (assuming they are here) and find somewhere a class to transfer to. O yeah and this is early July! We could see a flood of students coming from abroad and already here transferring to places that have physical classes because the alternative is deportation! We're going to see pressure for school to reopen on this basis and this is NOT going to look good. Hybrid is going to be the biggest search word this year. How are you evaluating a "similar" class?

This was announced a few months ago this might have made more sense but now... What institution would want to reopen if a flood of applicants from who knows where comes in nation wide. Remember how states had the whole "We don't want NYers". Yeah the same is going to be for academic in another four to six weeks. How many students are going to say "Hey let's go to the northeast, that's safer...right". What about dorms? I mean so if a student from overseas leaves, they take the class online but then try to go back next spring but all of the dorms are taken up by students that were here and didn't leave or transferred from other institutions? I don't know how you manage dorms but this can get ugly.

[HelloKitty76]

Originally Posted by mdovell

Could we maybe get a sticky or a list of what academic institions are offering in terms of the reopening? This can have a huge impact on the economy as surrounding businesses rely on students.


Well if you get the WSJ this might have a HUGE impact on the economy.


Basically it breaks down to this. If the school is hybrid classes and online and if they are here or not (foreign students.


If the student is here and the class is ONLY online they have to find a physical institution or leave
If the student is not here the the class is ONLY online they can only take it online, you cannot enter the US
If the student is here and it is a hybrid class they can stay
If the student is not here they can come to the USA and take a hybrid class

basically the concept is that if there are students coming in they have to be here physically in some capacity. They cannot come here and take the same online class that they could have taken overseas.


Then add covid on top of this.

UMass Boston said they are ALL online. So basically if the students left they can't really go back at this point unless they transfer to a physical class.

Umass amherst is *totally* screwed from this. This is literally the opposite of their plan
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/...return-campus/
They were actually saying that they wanted students to come back for online classes. Well they can't.

This is going to be a total cluster. This means pretty much that if a class is totally online students have to leave (assuming they are here) and find somewhere a class to transfer to. O yeah and this is early July! We could see a flood of students coming from abroad and already here transferring to places that have physical classes because the alternative is deportation! We're going to see pressure for school to reopen on this basis and this is NOT going to look good. Hybrid is going to be the biggest search word this year. How are you evaluating a "similar" class?

This was announced a few months ago this might have made more sense but now... What institution would want to reopen if a flood of applicants from who knows where comes in nation wide. Remember how states had the whole "We don't want NYers". Yeah the same is going to be for academic in another four to six weeks. How many students are going to say "Hey let's go to the northeast, that's safer...right". What about dorms? I mean so if a student from overseas leaves, they take the class online but then try to go back next spring but all of the dorms are taken up by students that were here and didn't leave or transferred from other institutions? I don't know how you manage dorms but this can get ugly.

that article you linked to from the Boston Globe isn't available anymore.

[mdovell]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/...return-campus/

I can't see the logic of having people live on campus if the classes are nearly all online (except for labs). Why bother? And then the university expects you aren't going to go that far out or do anything else. That's the complete opposite of what academia is about.


Umass boston all classes are online
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/...ine-this-fall/

covid put universities in a bind and invoking security via 9/11 (one of the hijackers was taking an ESL class and didn't show up) this policy is made. Visas as a concept are kinda an odd thing. Not directly immigrants but allowing access for a temporary reason or assessory (i.e. marriage, temp work etc)

[NewfieMama]

I have a close friend who is a professor at BU and she said the university has spent a ton of money outfitting every classroom for a hybrid model. I think it's called "Learn from Anywhere" and it's basically a setup where a certain number of students can be in the class (depending on the size of the class), but the goal is to make the experience the same for those who are in class vs. those who are streaming the class from home. The plan is to utilize this long-term, so it's not just a COVID solution.

It sounds to me like BU is trying to market this as a world-class technological advancement that is the "future" of education as a means to justify charging their normal tuition even though most students won't be able to attend class.

The other issue is that the faculty still has to go in and teach in their classrooms, even if there are no students physically in the class. So I guess some people are frustrated about that.

Our babysitter is a student at Bridgewater State University and she said that they announced all classes there are online through December. She is an early education major and moving to online classes last spring and this fall is a major problem for her--in order to graduate, you need to log in actual classroom time with children, so they are trying to figure out how to accomplish that without pushing back her graduation date.

[Bridge781]

Our babysitter goes to umass Lowell and they’re opening the campus in the fall. Umass Boston is not.

MIT is only allowing seniors to return to campus. Harvard is bringing back 40% to campus. That seems confusing like who is in that 40% allowed to return. How do you figure that out. Apparently first years are part of that.

[yesmaybe]

Originally Posted by mdovell

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/...return-campus/

I can't see the logic of having people live on campus if the classes are nearly all online (except for labs). Why bother?

money

[BostonMike7]

My Northeastern co-op is returning in the fall to on-campus housing and classes.

I asked her if she got any sort of refund from getting booted out of housing in the spring, or on their meal-plan. Nope.

[mdovell]

Well yeah money but I mean trapped on a dorm or just getting apartments and staying online there...

Personally I think some institutions could share dorms but that's harder. Supposedly Hampshire college might sell or lease areas.

[charolastra00]

Brandeis is allowing any undergrad who wants to come back to do so, but also offering lots of online classes and a suite of classes geared toward international students who are not able to come to campus due to visa issues with time zones in mind. There will be a handful of in-person or hyflex classes, but most will be offered online. The hope is that many undergraduates will choose not to come to campus but that those who do will be students in the arts or STEM, students who engage in research, and students who do not otherwise have a place to safely and productively continue coursework from.


Most local schools are engaging in frequent testing administered by the Broad.