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The evidence is staring you in the face that this ain't happening. DACA folks would be first in line for "rule change" and they've been waiting for how long now? That's my point.
Never say never amigo - millions upon millions of illegals waltzing right in past border patrol agents holding welcome signs would have been unthinkable just a few years ago yet here we are. All those illegals would have already been on our welfare and voter rolls had it not been for those few rethuglican repugnican judges that are keeping this from descending into complete and utter insanity.
Right amigo, it takes a long time to enter US through legal channels and it takes even longer to become a citizen. But like I said before, if mumbling asylum jefe, asylum lets you waltz in instantly because Uncle Joe & Co said so, what's stopping Uncle Joe & Co from changing other rules as well?
Thing is, nobody is doing anything. Unfair that it takes such a long time and so much money to come legally while others can just waltz in, some rightfully needing asylum while others just want a "better life." They wrongfully think we are going to give it to them here, to all the thousands upon thousands who come illegally.
The whole system, both legal and asylum seekers, needs to be reformed and updated. Somehow the system needs to be addressed but neither party does a thing. Trump pretended he would build a wall--that was a lie and does not count as progress on this matter.
Some countries in Europe are facing the same problem. People come in from countries in Africa and, knowing England is a nice place to live, that they have good medical service and will provide free or very low cost housing, these people skip countries that are closer to them like France or Spain and pass right though to England. This is causing strife and division in England just as it is here. Taxpayers resent it.
The system, whatever it is, needs to be fair. Asylum seekers should be held somewhere--where? Why do we need passports and visas whilte these people can just come here and get themselves bussed all over the country for free? Why do the rest of us have to follow rules? We don't even know who these people are! Meanwhile, LEGAL immigrants get intensely vetted. The double standard produces resentment yet no politicians ever fix it.
Thing is, nobody is doing anything. Unfair that it takes such a long time and so much money to come legally while others can just waltz in, some rightfully needing asylum while others just want a "better life." They wrongfully think we are going to give it to them here, to all the thousands upon thousands who come illegally.
The whole system, both legal and asylum seekers, needs to be reformed and updated. Somehow the system needs to be addressed but neither party does a thing. Trump pretended he would build a wall--that was a lie and does not count as progress on this matter.
Some countries in Europe are facing the same problem. People come in from countries in Africa and, knowing England is a nice place to live, that they have good medical service and will provide free or very low cost housing, these people skip countries that are closer to them like France or Spain and pass right though to England. This is causing strife and division in England just as it is here. Taxpayers resent it.
The system, whatever it is, needs to be fair. Asylum seekers should be held somewhere--where? Why do we need passports and visas whilte these people can just come here and get themselves bussed all over the country for free? Why do the rest of us have to follow rules? We don't even know who these people are! Meanwhile, LEGAL immigrants get intensely vetted. The double standard produces resentment yet no politicians ever fix it.
I think that's correct. Congress has to enact immigration policy on a bipartisan basis because it's a national problem, not a red/blue state problem (Of the Mexico border states, 2 are red, 2 are blue). And my cynical view, based on observable facts, is that it's not in the GOP's interest to work with the Dems on this. Why? Because (a) they'll no longer be able to point to brown alien invaders coming across the border and (b) they'll then share ownership of the problem. Heaven forbid their xenophobic rallying cries get taken away.
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I think that's correct. Congress has to enact immigration policy on a bipartisan basis because it's a national problem, not a red/blue state problem (Of the Mexico border states, 2 are red, 2 are blue). And my cynical view, based on observable facts, is that it's not in the GOP's interest to work with the Dems on this. Why? Because (a) they'll no longer be able to point to brown alien invaders coming across the border and (b) they'll then share ownership of the problem. Heaven forbid their xenophobic rallying cries get taken away.
And their business donors LOVE the discounted labor supply.
I think that's correct. Congress has to enact immigration policy on a bipartisan basis because it's a national problem, not a red/blue state problem (Of the Mexico border states, 2 are red, 2 are blue). And my cynical view, based on observable facts, is that it's not in the GOP's interest to work with the Dems on this. Why? Because (a) they'll no longer be able to point to brown alien invaders coming across the border and (b) they'll then share ownership of the problem. Heaven forbid their xenophobic rallying cries get taken away.
Amigo, what’s xenophobic about taxpayers not wanting to be bled dry by a huge herd of unskilled, uneducated illegals who don’t speak a word of English (fine, I lied, they know “asylumâ€) and are unable to support themselves? NYC took in a few thousand and it’s already costing them a cool billion a year, pocket change!
Homie, I know the hustle must be hustled and the grift must be grifted but let's be honest for a minute. The herd pouring across the border nonstop demanding jefe grants them asylum y mucho taxpayer dinero did not make Boston's biotech into what it is today. It did, however make Lawrence into Lawrence and Chelsea into Chelsea.
Who would have known it was just working class immigrants who gentrified Boston?
Who would have known it was just working class immigrants who gentrified Boston?
Funny enough homie is right and it was in fact immigrants who gentrified Boston and other cities, though it was actual immigrants who came here legally and brought their skills and education with them and not hordes of uneducated, unskilled illegals who are showing up demanding jefe gives them asylum y mucho taxpayer dinero.
Funny enough homie is right and it was in fact immigrants who gentrified Boston and other cities, though it was actual immigrants who came here legally and brought their skills and education with them and not hordes of uneducated, unskilled illegals who are showing up demanding jefe gives them asylum y mucho taxpayer dinero.
That's what I mean, it was (in part) entrepreneurial and/or skilled/educated immigrant people who revitalized parts of the city which laying the groundwork for later gentrification, not those entering unlawfully and unable to support themselves and their families. But there were also many others besides those immigrants.
I think that's correct. Congress has to enact immigration policy on a bipartisan basis because it's a national problem, not a red/blue state problem (Of the Mexico border states, 2 are red, 2 are blue). And my cynical view, based on observable facts, is that it's not in the GOP's interest to work with the Dems on this. Why? Because (a) they'll no longer be able to point to brown alien invaders coming across the border and (b) they'll then share ownership of the problem. Heaven forbid their xenophobic rallying cries get taken away.
We have immigration policy, it just needs to be enforced.
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