Framingham: Majority-Minority City? (Boston: rated, Filipino, Hispanic)

[MrDee12345]

Originally Posted by Boston_Burbs

Are Brazilians considered Latino?

They are considered "Latino", but not "Hispanic."

On the flipside, Spaniards are considered "Hispanic", but not "Latino".

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by MrDee12345

They are considered "Latino", but not "Hispanic."

On the flipside, Spaniards are considered "Hispanic", but not "Latino".

Do you have anything to support that assertion?

[MrDee12345]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Do you have anything to support that assertion?

I was just about to edit my comment to put my sources:

https://www.britannica.com/story/wha...g%20Brazilians.

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is...latino-5082005

[WestieWhitie]

Originally Posted by missionhill

...reasons other than the usual white fears and prejudices, which are always the real reasons.

Ah yes, because we all know cities and towns with large poor minority populations have the best schools in the state and them racist whities are still sending their kids to private schools instead.

[Lampert]

Originally Posted by MrDee12345

They are considered "Latino", but not "Hispanic."

On the flipside, Spaniards are considered "Hispanic", but not "Latino".

The census doesn't make any difference between Hispanic or Latino.
The question is "Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin". That's how most of these data are collected.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by MrDee12345

I was just about to edit my comment to put my sources:

https://www.britannica.com/story/wha...g%20Brazilians.

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is...latino-5082005

hmm i wonder if the census and ACS use Hispanic or Latino like this? or interchangeably.

[MrDee12345]

Originally Posted by Lampert

The census doesn't make any difference between Hispanic or Latino.
The question is "Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin". That's how most of these data are collected.

I think the important word here is "or". Basically it's asking if someone is Hispanic OR Latino OR Spanish origin. So someone could be one of those, or they could be all three. Either way, they could check the box.

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

hmm i wonder if the census and ACS use Hispanic or Latino like this? or interchangeably.

I find that defining people from Latin America (or the Carribean) differently than how we label people whose relatives came directly from Europe or Africa a bit strange.

People from Latin America can trace their ancestors back to Europe, Africa and even Asia, just like Americans. Plus they have huge native populations. Not sure why we would need to count them separately.

Furthermore, by including "Spanish origin" as one of the labels, that would include people from Spain. Why would we treat people from Spain any differently than we would treat people from other parts of Europe?

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

hmm i wonder if the census and ACS use Hispanic or Latino like this? or interchangeably.

And is that something new? I never recall the word Latino being any kind of an option.

[BruinsGirl]

Originally Posted by WestieWhitie

Ah yes, because we all know cities and towns with large poor minority populations have the best schools in the state and them racist whities are still sending their kids to private schools instead.

I have at least 12 couples with kids in Framingham. Most of them in fancy shmancy neighborhoods. Kids are in private schools (although I believe kids would be in private schools if they lived in Newton or Needham too). Remaining families send their kids to all kinds of additional Math and such schools.

Just remembered… I have two Black coworkers who live in Framingham and send kids to private schools too.

[scorpio516]

Originally Posted by MrDee12345

I find that defining people from Latin America (or the Carribean) differently than how we label people whose relatives came directly from Europe or Africa a bit strange.

People from Latin America can trace their ancestors back to Europe, Africa and even Asia, just like Americans. Plus they have huge native populations. Not sure why we would need to count them separately.

Furthermore, by including "Spanish origin" as one of the labels, that would include people from Spain. Why would we treat people from Spain any differently than we would treat people from other parts of Europe?

In 1970, we decided that Hispanic is different. Where you grew up is different than where your family is from ONLY if you speak Spanish.
so you end up with 12 different categories of people:
White Hispanic
Black Hispanic
Native American Hispanic
Asian Hispanic
Native Hawaiian Hispanic
Other Hispanic
AND
White Non-Hispanic, Black Non-Hispanic, etc.

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

hmm i wonder if the census and ACS use Hispanic or Latino like this? or interchangeably.

The entire federal government define Hispanic/Latino as a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of "race". (see post 11)

Anyone from Spain, south of the US border in the western hemisphere, the Philippines, and the Federated States of Micronesia are Hispanic/Latino in the census, OPM, DOT, DOE, anything Federal.