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Old 04-29-2024, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Milton and Marshfield are pushing back against the Baker strong arming forcing types of housing the NOBODY wants and that will arguably not help matters much. It's not the answer.
Walk with me though ...

If "NOBODY wants" it...then it wont get built

If "NOBODY wants" it...then even if or some reason it gets built...then no one will live in it

If "NOBODY wants" it...and nobody lives in it...then there's no traffic

If "NOBODY wants" it...and theres no traffic....then there's no traffic to have concerns about...

If "NOBODY wants" it...and nobody lives in it...and there's no traffic....why does it matter if its zoned for? No one wants it anyway.
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Old 04-29-2024, 10:51 AM
 
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People are clearly uncomfortable with their town (regardless of how long they've lived there) suddenly gaining hundreds if not thousands of people due to multi unit complexes

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Old 04-29-2024, 11:11 AM
 
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Walk with me though ...

If "NOBODY wants" it...then it wont get built

If "NOBODY wants" it...then even if or some reason it gets built...then no one will live in it

If "NOBODY wants" it...and nobody lives in it...then there's no traffic

If "NOBODY wants" it...and theres no traffic....then there's no traffic to have concerns about...

If "NOBODY wants" it...and nobody lives in it...and there's no traffic....why does it matter if its zoned for? No one wants it anyway.

I meant that no locals want it. Between all these shoe box apartments/condos being thrown up everywhere you look, I honestly can't say I know a single person who has moved into one or even heard of anybody and that pretty much aligns with everybody you talk to. It's a real mystery as to who is buying or renting these places. A lot of them do seem empty. The thing is that if you are looking to ease the housing shortage among people already living here, it's not going to do much good building a place that only foreign investors or wealthy transplants looking for an occasional crash pad are interested in. Native born Americans in general (but especially people who grew up the Boston area) want single family or nothing. They won't even consider a condo. Maybe rent a cheap 3 decker in the city or split with roommates, but not gonna buy a condo in a complex somewhere or splurge to rent one of these newer "luxury" units. They just assume live in their parent's basement till they're in theiir 30s instead. We need more smaller single families if we are going to make an impact, or I'd like to think quality townhome type developments will gain acceptance over time. Problem is we don't have many good newer examples of the latter, which will be needed to overcome the local stigma that any non-detached housing = projects.
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Old 04-29-2024, 11:18 AM
 
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Yep. Smaller single family homes seems to be the answer but no one wants to build them
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Old 04-29-2024, 11:21 AM
 
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People are clearly uncomfortable with their town (regardless of how long they've lived there) suddenly gaining hundreds if not thousands of people due to multi unit complexes
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I meant that no locals want it.
Well done! Thank you for coming to my Ted talk about Townies sealing their own fates.

Enjoy your San Francisco-New Haven combination trajectory.
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Old 04-29-2024, 11:25 AM
 
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Well done! Thank you for coming to my Ted talk about Townies sealing their own fates.

That's the individual consumer, which whether you agree with or not is not going to change with whatever government "policy" is shoved down their throat. You have to cater to the market that exists. Unless you are some social engineering nazi, somebody with your background should easily understand this.



And who said this was just "townies"?
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Old 04-29-2024, 11:35 AM
 
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There's never going to be a one size fits all as far as this goes. Some people are probably going to be waiting their whole life for housing to become affordable for them here and will likely never own. Unless of course they buy a condo
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Old 04-29-2024, 12:29 PM
 
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Walk with me though ...

If "NOBODY wants" it...then it wont get built

If "NOBODY wants" it...then even if or some reason it gets built...then no one will live in it

If "NOBODY wants" it...and nobody lives in it...then there's no traffic

If "NOBODY wants" it...and theres no traffic....then there's no traffic to have concerns about...

If "NOBODY wants" it...and nobody lives in it...and there's no traffic....why does it matter if its zoned for? No one wants it anyway.
It's bizarre that you are so angry and passionate about a state not doing something you want them to do when you don't even live here. I can only guess you can't afford to live here and are mad about that.
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Old 04-29-2024, 12:33 PM
 
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It's bizarre that you are so angry and passionate about a state not doing something you want them to do when you don't even live here. I can only guess you can't afford to live here and are mad about that.
I don't know the slightest bit about OP but you are definitely not reading what they wrote if all you gleaned from that post is anger.
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Old 04-29-2024, 12:42 PM
 
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I don't know the slightest bit about OP but you are definitely not reading what they wrote if all you gleaned from that post is anger.
I am reading it. He just hates townies and people from MA. I've been on this forum longer than you
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