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Old 07-09-2012, 04:33 AM
 
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This has been brought up in a number of threads I seen on here. This mentality of "people that succeeded didn't give up on (blank) so that's why I'm going to keep trying."

Just asking: why do people equate random success stories of someone else with meaning they will personally succeed too? I don't understand this mentality. Wouldn't it be more feasible to go off of your own experiences in life as opposed to using someone else's life/circumstances/experiences as a measure for what you're capable of?

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Old 07-09-2012, 08:37 AM
 
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I guess for some that's what it takes to keep them motivated....I don't understand that mentality either.....though sometimes it can be helpful to learn from others mistakes,.... so that you don't repeat them.....
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:07 AM
 
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I guess for some that's what it takes to keep them motivated....I don't understand that mentality either.....though sometimes it can be helpful to learn from others mistakes,.... so that you don't repeat them.....

okay, yes i do understand about learn from people mistakes so you don't repeat them as well. just not that other mindset. but alright.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:12 PM
 
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I would think that you hear this about people who have been an inspiration to others. If a person is using someone else as their inspiration to not give, up, try harder, do better, then what's wrong with that? If they are trying to be exactly like the other person, or saying "he failed at this, so I shouldn't even try" than that's another thing.

But I think it's good to be inspired by the successes of others, if that motivates a person to excel. It's great if you have consistent, unwaivering confidence in yourself. But for some people, confidence goes up & down, and looking to someone else for inspiration can help in the "down" periods.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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I would think that you hear this about people who have been an inspiration to others.[/b] If a person is using someone else as their inspiration to not give, up, try harder, do better, then what's wrong with that? If they are trying to be exactly like the other person, or saying "he failed at this, so I shouldn't even try" than that's another thing.

But I think it's good to be inspired by the successes of others, if that motivates a person to excel. It's great if you have consistent, unwaivering confidence in yourself. But for some people, confidence goes up & down, and looking to someone else for inspiration can help in the "down" periods.

If that's what someone want to, okay, didn't say there was something necessarily wrong with it. I said it didn't make sense to me. you have explain it and why you think people do this because it's about 'inspiration' and while i understood what you're saying, it's still not something I 'get' personally. oh well.
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:37 PM
 
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Ha! I recently got a free book on my Kindle, "How to Completely Change Your Life..achieve everything you want " ...Wow...cool. So, I downloaded the book, it was free. After the first three paragraphs, I was ready to toss it...why? Okay, the guy said he was down and out, all the way at the bottom...and how did he get back up? He moved home with his PARENTS!! Wow! Gee...If I could move home with my parents, I could get out of debt...heck, I would have never got into debt! I would have money to travel, go to school, work on a degree, on and on....how about how to get your life on track, when you don't have anyone to support you? That book was worthless. I can't even bring myself to even care about it.
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:52 PM
 
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Ha! I recently got a free book on my Kindle, "How to Completely Change Your Life..achieve everything you want " ...Wow...cool. So, I downloaded the book, it was free. After the first three paragraphs, I was ready to toss it...why? Okay, the guy said he was down and out, all the way at the bottom...and how did he get back up? He moved home with his PARENTS!! Wow! Gee...If I could move home with my parents, I could get out of debt...heck, I would have never got into debt! I would have money to travel, go to school, work on a degree, on and on....how about how to get your life on track, when you don't have anyone to support you? That book was worthless. I can't even bring myself to even care about it.
If only I'd have thought of that idea first; I might be rich by now. Slight problem though...I don't have that option and even if I did, I think I'd rather sleep in my car.
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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Ha! I recently got a free book on my Kindle, "How to Completely Change Your Life..achieve everything you want " ...Wow...cool. So, I downloaded the book, it was free. After the first three paragraphs, I was ready to toss it...why? Okay, the guy said he was down and out, all the way at the bottom...and how did he get back up? He moved home with his PARENTS!! Wow! Gee...If I could move home with my parents, I could get out of debt...heck, I would have never got into debt! I would have money to travel, go to school, work on a degree, on and on....how about how to get your life on track, when you don't have anyone to support you? That book was worthless. I can't even bring myself to even care about it.
I bought some type of frugal living magazine because the feature article caught my attention. It was entitled "Our family lives on $24,000 a year" and had a picture of a couple with three small children standing in front of a nice two story home on a huge lawn.

I started reading the article and one of the first things mentioned was that they lived in their home rent-free, It belonged to an elderly relative who had moved to a condo, and let the family live there rent free, utility free, property tax free and insurance free.

The home had a workshop in one of the outbuildings so dad worked out of the shop doing carpentry, I think. Mom stated that of course she didn't work because she loved being a full time mom.

Then another paragraph mentioned that their 7 passenger van belonged to a friend who for some reason or other didn't need it so, you guessed it, the family had a free van.

I quit reading after that because I realized that I didn't have an elderly relative who could give me a free house or a friend who would give me a free vehicle.
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:51 PM
 
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This has been brought up in a number of threads I seen on here. This mentality of "people that succeeded didn't give up on (blank) so that's why I'm going to keep trying."

Just asking: why do people equate random success stories of someone else with meaning they will personally succeed too? I don't understand this mentality. Wouldn't it be more feasible to go off of your own experiences in life as opposed to using someone else's life/circumstances/experiences as a measure for what you're capable of?

I think I know the answer - because if you don't know how high the bar is set, you don't know how high you have to jump.

Roger Bannister tried for years to run an under-four-minute mile. He did it, only to have his record beaten less than two months later. Someone else knew there was a goal to beat and did it.

I had never known anyone with colon cancer and when the doctor gave me my diagnosis, I had no idea what was to come. So I did what I had done all my life whenever adversity arose - tackled it full on. I hope that I can be an inspiration to someone else to do just what I did.

It isn't a matter of thinking you can succeed just because someone else did. It's striving to succeed because someone else did.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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I bought some type of frugal living magazine because the feature article caught my attention. It was entitled "Our family lives on $24,000 a year" and had a picture of a couple with three small children standing in front of a nice two story home on a huge lawn.

I started reading the article and one of the first things mentioned was that they lived in their home rent-free, It belonged to an elderly relative who had moved to a condo, and let the family live there rent free, utility free, property tax free and insurance free.

The home had a workshop in one of the outbuildings so dad worked out of the shop doing carpentry, I think. Mom stated that of course she didn't work because she loved being a full time mom.

Then another paragraph mentioned that their 7 passenger van belonged to a friend who for some reason or other didn't need it so, you guessed it, the family had a free van.

I quit reading after that because I realized that I didn't have an elderly relative who could give me a free house or a friend who would give me a free vehicle.
Hah!! And the $24,000. was what the magazine paid them for the interview I'll bet!
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